Yeah,Blaze is completely right,this skill is only fair to the lion so not everyone is out matched toward the lions,thought I am a lower level than him,I have like 762 LK , with my luck set, I'd think that it would be enough to OHKO a simple buff with a pistol whip,but it doesn't. It'd probly take out like a half of his HP,and he'd kill me,it's not fair at all,landmine,would probably take out half the HP bar,but then what? Since my Pistol whip gets a range of 14k-17k damage in pvp,and my land mines do 20k,if I combine that,that still won't be enough to beat someone like that,and also,since we are the weakest,we can't even pvp people our level,it's always someone like 50 levels lower or something.So if we won,it'd be unsatisfying,and not fun at all,completely boring,then when that person get's tired of getting killing,they'll call in someone to kill us,and we don't do anything about it because we know we can't kill that person. This skill can change all of that.
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I dont like this idea
I'm a lion player, and i dont want such a stupid skill. I didnt choose to play a lion because i could use a GUN, i wanted a lion for the special power part, the pack-rat ability, the jack-of-all-trade feeling, and the chalenge coming with it.
Those who took lion for the gun made a wrong choice, you want close range strength, choose Power, you want defence, choose Charm, you want long range power, choose Magic. The Sense type isnt a warrior, he is a special character, he is able to figth, but figthing isnt his goal. His goal is to make all the other character weep because they can't get what they want when drilling, to critical hit so often that everyone think he is hacked, to have the biggest backpak anyone ever saw and still run around as if it was nothing, to be the master at compound/refine/mature and only share our skill if the other pay up the big price, we are the motor of the caballa in-game economy, because we can easily find the raw material, hold more of it with us and transform it with less risk than anyone else. If the lions and foxes disapere, who will the other call upon for help? Myshop player? they cant really help you because myshop item cannot be sold or excanged, player who put 4 in their sense? do this even exist(other than in Sense Type)? it would make their char almost unplayable, they dont want that. No one can replace the sense type, so stop whining about being the weakest, because you simply havent discover the real power of the Sense.
Griffin, a lion fan
grimlock13: Those who took lion for the gun made a wrong choice
Those who took lion for the gun made a wrong choice
Why? When most of lion's skills are GUN-RELATED.
grimlock13:His goal is to make all the other character weep because they can't get what they want when drilling
Any type of char can easily get 90DA to drill. Basic Detection has a limitation to the depth it can see, and only lasts 3 seconds. Adding to that, there are now myshop scrolls that just negate this skill so any type of character can have the ability.
grimlock13:to critical hit so often that everyone think he is hacked
Not when you're a gun user, which *cough* once again, gun skills are 90% of lion's skills.
grimlock13:to have the biggest backpak anyone ever saw and still run around as if it was nothing,
Myshop WT bags, giving an added 19.4k WT to any character.
grimlock13:to be the master at compound/refine/mature and only share our skill if the other pay up the big price
Sense are not masters at refining, nor mature compounding. The "compound mastery" skill is pure crap. I have tested many many times with and without the skill, with many ranges of LK, and it didn't increase my odds at all.
Refining..we don't have anything to do with refining. I've broke my BSword 8 times at level 5, and Karan gun 23 times at level 10. I've given up upgrading both of them. An old guildie of mine, a CAT, managed to get her Odinea weapon to level 10 without breaking once.
As for regular compounds, it just depends on the user's DA. 100DA or so is enough to get the max percentage on compounds.
grimlock13: If the lions and foxes disapere, who will the other call upon for help? Myshop player? they cant really help you because myshop item cannot be sold or excanged, player who put 4 in their sense? do this even exist(other than in Sense Type)? it would make their char almost unplayable, they dont want that.
If sense didn't exist, people would just manually drill instead of using drillerboy..which would increase the prices of drillable items. Not necessarily a bad thing, the economy sucks for selling quest items just because of drillerboy.
Many magics(even a bunny lolol) pus 4 into sense...so yeah. They're able to play fine.
Basically you're saying that sense users are made purely for drilling. Who would want a char if you hardly ever play on it?
You got...
everything...
wrong...
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you analyse only part of my post instead of seeing it as a whole
(and i get more critics with my gun than most same leveled people of other type i know)
@grimlock13
I bet you don't go to PvP with your lion.
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I would think that Sense > Magic for the PvP order...? LK determines hit chance for magic, and since sense > magic for luck generally, the spells ought to miss more...right? Guns also null the range advantage a bit...
Anyways, it's a good skill, but a bit broken. And you've got the broken skills for the other classes wrong -_-
Buffalo: Uh...does Buffalo even have a broken skill?
Bunny: Tetra Punch. That thing is REALLY powerful...15x normal damage at least if you add it all up?
Sheep: Depending on style...Cleaving Terra + Razor Storm/Wind Blade + Radiant Strike/Gravity Crush or Electroshock + (Whichever fire skill) + Dark Lance.
Dragon: Dark Lance + Arrow Rush...ouch. PAINFUL single-target damage. Not the most accurate, but PAINFUL.
Fox: Landmines, probably. The ultimate hit-and-run skill.
Raccoon: Full House. Skunk + mass damage?
Cat: A lot of things -_- AP cats with Evolution have insane damage output, period...
I can see that Lions lack a broken skill (I think buffalo do as well, but that's beside the question...that, and they can hybrid for Tetra Punch), but isn't the one you've suggested a little...too powerful? Limit it to three guns, gained in a Hyper Beat style fashion (1 from LV1-5, 2 from 6-10, 3 for master) and cut the duration a bit. Everything else can stay, just make it less broken, please...
Wow, this little discussion is going out of the focus, but I like all the thoughts that are coming, and to GunBlaze, I Agree with you, Grimlock wouldn't even touch pvp with his lion, I want this skill only because lions aren't popular, and to valk, You're right about all those things. But since no one wants this skill, I guess lions are to die out, and no one would want to have one anymore. No one would ever see one again, then what? If you want a melee and gun type, lions are right grimlock, but you're a pitiful idiot who thinks that you can be a looter who is considered a "noob". I use a sword as well, so guess what? I need that skill either way. Pistol whip is a good skill considering that it's strong if you use LK, but you know what? Pistol whip has a long Cool down time, and you'd die. And to reply to all your stuff, listen, Special power= GUN (Ok? Clearing this up),next, Pack-rat- I mean like seriously? You REALLY want lions to be abused by their friends to be told to carry crap? Next, Jack of all trade- "Looter." Or for refrence, Go to pack-rat, challenge? THERE IS ENOUGH CHALLENGES BEING A LION ALREADY, SO I WANT THIS SKILL.
valrkirin: Basically you're saying that sense users are made purely for drilling. Who would want a char if you hardly ever play on it?
Why not?
Are you sure you have never seen character made just for drilling?
I've seen many times, and also if someone makes character to sell items with it, it's usually Sense.
Drilling+Selling stuff = Sense
Lions have also best reactions to everything, and way they sit is fun ^^;;
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Hypocrite! You has a lot of Merchant mules. And more mules for future purpose. ;~; But the thing is, you have a lot of chars you hardly play.
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IhaveSenses: valrkirin: Basically you're saying that sense users are made purely for drilling. Who would want a char if you hardly ever play on it? Hypocrite! You has a lot of Merchant mules. And more mules for future purpose. ;~; But the thing is, you have a lot of chars you hardly play.
Learn the difference between a main and a mule, 'tard. I use my mains to their full extent, doing everything they are *meant* to do. Arrogance and I are proof that lions are not just singling them out for one specific purpose in this game. Every single character should be able to PVP effectively, and not get 1hit KO'd by most everyone the same level as you. You hardly ever venture into PVP, so what's the point of you posting here?