Which is better? Pure AP or Pure HV Raccoon?

I need help!

On like guides it says that AP is really good and on other guides it says HV is better than AP?

HELP ME PLEASE!~

THANKS!

-Zalune

Hv and Ap coons have their own advantages and disadvantages.

I pick HV cause of Metamorphosis :o

:ChaosSlayerZ 

In my opinion pure AP is best left for Cat since evolution triples attack power.

sapphirezero:

In my opinion pure AP is best left for Cat since evolution triples attack power.

Pure AP can work very well for Coons, although Pure HV or Hybrid AP/HV are more common.

The only advantages I can think of with pure HV Coons are the insane damage with Wild Nail, and Lions missing you in PvP. o.o

Well, to be totally honest, for coons, I'd say HV because of Meta, but it's all in how you analyze it.

Remember that Meta only affects BASE stats.

At 169, I have 41 BASE HV (no points added; means it'd be 82)

Remember that your card skills are more affected by AP (damage calculation is AP + HV * 8; I can get 8 AP every 2 levels assuming I put no points in it.) 

As for 3rd job, THAT is completely up to you.  Half-cat has it's advantages (Volley Kick hits HARD, especially if you're HV coon; Team Bolster helps in GVG, Siren's Song is another Impelling Rage)

While pure has it's own goodies (Full House = AOE mezz)

I'm not gonna tell you to go either way; you go the way you want.  I'm, personally, an AP cat with HV compounds.  Works out REALLY nice, too. 

akisame:

Pure AP can work very well for Coons, although Pure HV or Hybrid AP/HV are more common.

The only advantages I can think of with pure HV Coons are the insane damage with Wild Nail, and Lions missing you in PvP. o.o

One Pair + Card Strike of an AP Coon usually outdamages the Wild Nail damage of an HV Coon.  The reason you take Wild Nail is because with it, you get a 200% HV and DP buff, making it hard to hit you.  And Lions don't miss based off HV, they missed based off LK.

-Atrophy

And like everyone else said, it can go either way.  For example, I'm an AP Coon, and I can easily dish out 100k damage in a few attacks.  HOWEVER, being a Gambler is dangerous to myself, I can break 6k damage in a single failed Full House, and 30k if all five hits decide to backfire on me.  Obviously, that'll leave me dead, so damage-dealing may not be the most important thing in latter game.  It's really how you aim to play though.

I just calculated this last night and posted it here:
http://www.mytrickster.net/forum/615891-post55.html

Full post:
http://www.mytrickster.net/forum/charm-type-guides/54598-cujoexs-short-gambler-raccoon-guide.html

I used this site which is posted somewhere else in the forums here I am sure. I think Atrophy posted it.
http://fungaah.awardspace.com/

Basically I just calculated saying that whether you are a Pure HV or Pure AP Coon, you are better off having HV equipments. As I stated in the full thread, I don't know how high AP goes, how I calculated 700 based on the Special Gacha Town, Sword Cane and Santa Knight. And how even 1000 AP does not out do 100 HV. So to all you Coons out there, whether you be Pure HV or Pure AP, according to what I calculated on that site, you are better off having HV equips either way, as you will do more damage no matter which you are. Pure AP out damages a Pure HV with One Pair still, but just by 1-2k damage in the end.

As for Wild Nails on a Pure HV, you will do twice as much damage as a pure AP would do with it. So overall, in my opinion, pure HV is best. But there is really no best, they come with their pros and cons. Overall though on a balanced test, HV comes out over. Not only that, having all that HV gives you some more dodge power, that is until it just caps at 300 HV, but over 300 HV would still help your damage at least.

Also can anyone show me the description of Full House? On that site it says it is HV and LK based. I am sure there is more to it though.

Raukue:

Also can anyone show me the description of Full House? On that site it says it is HV and LK based. I am sure there is more to it though.

Full House is (AP + (LK + HV) * 8) * Magnification Ratio.

To the rest of your post, the double damage gained from Wild Nail is irrelevant when you compare it with One Pair and Full House (which come out faster, and at a range over Wild Nail).  Wild Nail becomes far outclassed in third job.  Also 1000 AP is nothing if you're considering on a large scale, as a Pure AP Coon, I have nearly 4000 AP, and 300 HV.

Also, as I've previously said, AP comps are only worthwhile IF AND ONLY IF you can comp AP at a rate of 11.6 times the HV.  In other words, comping 12 AP for every 1 HV will make AP more favourable.  In almost any equipment that is AP and HV compable, favours AP in comping.  I would know, I deal a lot more damage than most Coons out there.  I don't know of any Coon that hits for 45k+ with his One Pair.

-Atrophy

Do you mean 4000 including equips? I want to know how much AP on equips you have. Base AP is not what I am talking about that. I mean that site that I think you pasted shows that more HV would do more than with only AP. Of course having both is better, but more HV rather than AP is more possible. I look in the MyShop AP sets and AP is not compoundable into them. But the HV sets, you can compound HV into all 3 pieces.

So I want to know how much AP you have from equips and how much HV from equips, not your base and equips total. If you don't want to tell me, put it on that site to see what would do more because what I get, is 100 HV does more for a Coon's One Pair than 1000 AP alone does for it. Of course having both is good. With my Coon I have 84 HV from equips and 428 AP or around there if I remember. That is both of course. But yeah I am just puzzled at how high AP can go on equips and to be able to have a lot of HV on equips as well.