Helping Future Gunners or lions :D

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blushingbear:

-1 Sorry but that might annoy charms and powers seeing as HV is not meant to be by-passed. >_< I've heard ideas like this before, but it's a good idea just not something I'd like to see. And would also over power lions ><. They'd spree this skill all over pvp DX

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Having no protection against a power/charm's attack is pretty annoying.  Is it not something you'd like to see because you are a power?

 

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I thought the System in PvP was Power kills Charm kills Magic kills Sense kills Power. Anyways, Racoons kill everyone. Anyways, sense types already have something the other classes don't have, and it's their drilling abilities. Sense types don't really seem fit for PvP/GvG but their other skills make up for a lot. Charms are actually pretty offensive too. Heck, lions pwn at OHKO everyone in GvG. Just look over what you guys have, not at what you don't have.

It's better to appreciate and like your character than to dread over how much you think they suck.

A sense's drilling skills are nothing to be proud of.  Any level 100+ char can easily manage 90DA for drilling.  Just to poke more fun at sense characters, they've even released those drilling scrolls into Myshop for all other chars to have a sense's skill.  There's no use in creating a sense just for drilling anymore, unless you want WT.

"lions pwn at GVG" <- I sure hope that was a typo.

Lion VS Mage?  Since the "special" LK nerf for mages, they no longer need LK and are able to hit 100% of the time.  Yet lions still need their LK as accuracy to be able to hit, meaning they still have to sacrifice AC for LK, while mages can go full MA.  A single AR can take out a lion in GVG.

Lion VS Power?  Lions have to get through Guard before doing any damage to a Power.  Powers can easily 1hit kill a lion.

Lion VS Charm? A cat's 2hit, or raccoon's FH/OP is enough to take out a lion in a single hit.

Lion VS Sense?  Whoever has more LK wins.

So basically the only "evenly matched" characters in GVG against a lion would be pure buffalos and other sense.

 

Now about the actual skill, I don't think it should be a continuous active skill.  It should be an on/off like a lion's current AOE.  As such, with the high damage, it should have a longer delay.

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*ahem* since when did you proclaim yourself as the leader of lions? Not every lion has the problem you may have with PvP The game wasn't meant for PvP. The way I see it, lions may be the best at PvM and bossing. Very few monsters are gun resist, so lions can clear a map pretty easily. I hate to admit it, but I've ksed many people at tap1 with my lion, not on purpose of course. Of course drilling doesn't help in PvM or PvP, but it's an important aspect of the game and drilling is here to stay. So what if your lion can't "pwn @ll teh n00bz" in PvP? Be happy that you didn't spend all the money the others did just to be the best in PvP. Lions have a place in the game, just like every other character. They are good for questing, drilling, PvM and bossing. This game is TO, not PvP.

/end rant? Don't know if i'd call it a "rant" but I think it was necessary to say. "we" don't need this skill, but "you" may think you do. I still stand with my suggestion for some sort of bulletproof vest skill for lions. It at least has to do with how they are typically played. And you forget that there are also gunner foxes out there. I haven't seen a single gunner fox complain.

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Dark,it doesn't matter,since lions are weakest in pvp,it gives us a bad rep because we can't kill a charm,magic,or power,Lions want this skill,i've asked my lion friends,they all thought it was a good idea,since every type is I love you! except for Sense,The sense types are the weakest in this game,it's a sad fact,this skill can change everything so we're all even and no one is I love you! understand? And I may not be the leader of the lions but at least I want to stand up for the type I am and for everyone who is considered weak,everyone should be even and be proclaimed as a strong type. So it doesn't matter if I'm not the leader,I want to be,but I can realize it's impossible,everyone has differences and not many people agree,but this skill will help lions as much as possible and make us greatly known to the trickster world,and help all lions with hunting,pvp'ing,or more,it doesn't matter if it's not fair to your eyes,but it's not fair to the lion's user's eyes because of the racoons FH,OP,Skunk, Cats two hit,skunk volley,buffs gale,sonic,bunny's Guard,Flame fist,Dragon's Celestial/SoH,and Sheeps elementals/SoH,this skill will even it so the sense type can be in that list I just made, (Foxes hide/poison and Lion's Ultimate defence and double shot) I wish I could put us in there,but I want to stand up the the lion's race in this game so it's all fair.

 I is the bored god lion :D Tiny lion gang owns xD :3 ~hanzo11 has spoken! OO

 

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I understand you're trying to contribute to making gunners in general on being more powerful, but I still see your skill suggestion a little unethical. Your skill is basically what guard did for powers, SoH for magics, and stun skills for charms. If this sort of skill is given to senses, then somebody will raise their voice in protest to it, so another skill will be made to remedy it, and so on and so forth. It's a ridiculous chain that has already been made and will most likely continue until every type will so clustered with unimaginably powerful skills that people will get tired of the game.

I've basically said all I can say on this topic. If you think that a skill like this is so necessary to make gunners more powerful, then you can keep thinking that way, while I shall stick to my opinions on them.

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DarkClaw:

I understand you're trying to contribute to making gunners in general on being more powerful, but I still see your skill suggestion a little unethical. Your skill is basically what guard did for powers, SoH for magics, and stun skills for charms. If this sort of skill is given to senses, then somebody will raise their voice in protest to it, so another skill will be made to remedy it, and so on and so forth. It's a ridiculous chain that has already been made and will most likely continue until every type will so clustered with unimaginably powerful skills that people will get tired of the game.

I've basically said all I can say on this topic. If you think that a skill like this is so necessary to make gunners more powerful, then you can keep thinking that way, while I shall stick to my opinions on them.

 

Dark,I'm defending them because it's only fair to us,if someone else rises,all they need to know or think about is Full house,Guard+Uppercut,or SoH,it's not fair to the lions. Even when we try our best,we can't do anything,If I tried to DS a charm,all I'd see is Miss miss,then they can Two hit me,Skunk,or Full house which is an instant kill,If I tried to DS a power,It'd do 1k,then they would upper cut or gale me,if I DS a Magic,SoH protects them,they they only need to AR or Telsa me and I'd die,I'm defending the lion's for a reason,so this would be fair.

 I is the bored god lion :D Tiny lion gang owns xD :3 ~hanzo11 has spoken! OO

 

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Think about the lions for once.I'm a power and it isn't really fair at all.Bunnies can kill everyone yea,Buffalos can kill everyone yea,Dragons/sheeps can kill all yea,raccoons/cats can kill all yea,foxes can kill all yea,lions......?

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Thank you Mugen,for thinking about the lion's continuation.

 I is the bored god lion :D Tiny lion gang owns xD :3 ~hanzo11 has spoken! OO

 

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You make it sound like I don't want lions to be adequate too. I already stated that I have a lion as well. It's not just your skill that will make everything right =/ others have their own suggestions, why does your idea have to be the one that's right?

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It's right because I'm standing up for my friends,and if you have a lion,you should agree. If you don't ahve a lion,try and kill a trobbie by drilling,hit the trobbie,and go drill,see what happens,would it be fair? No.but what I came up with,could help the lions,I don't know if it's right,but lots of people do think it would be.

 I is the bored god lion :D Tiny lion gang owns xD :3 ~hanzo11 has spoken! OO

 

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Its yokoJR to you mr mad

Maybe you guys don't care because you don't pvp

But unlike you we actually care =/ (and yes im talking to everyone)

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