LloydDunamis:

LloydDunamis:

And here I always thought that the chance of digging out items is purely based on DA, and not some sort of "hotspots" randomly placed on land. Basic Detection proved me wrong >3<

......... It's been disturbing me. With the idea of the item hot spots (pertaining to the individual spots that Item Detector shows, not the area) different from what I've stated, that renders DA useless in terms of exact "item excavation success" >_>;;. Meaning everyone, high DA or low, can be nice drillers, especially with those hotspots (area)... Sure, it can save Drill Life and Digging Time, especially for non-sense charas, but...

Phoneuma:

Anyway, what I wanted to add if I haven't done so already is that when using the two detection skills -- Basic Detection and Item Detector -- you need to click on the right-half of the locator circle. If you click on the left-half and there isn't an overlapping item to the left, you will actually miss the location. It used to not be this way back in Beta, but I've noticed in REVO that you have to click off to the right. You can't even click on the center, as that will translate to clicking on the left.

o_O; Yeah... I started noticing that when I tried to drill point-by-point... Well, even before I read this quote, and not having a Sense character at that, I've come across this same thought... The same idea applies to clicking around to move, too! Thanks for confirming!

It has a badly-written code, I say. Instead of "rounding off", they "truncate".


Taking note of Theou's advice, I wish to provide some kind of picture grid showing where exactly should the drill pointer be clicked on to drill on the spot you intended to drill on. (What? O.o;) This is nice especially for someone finding and exploiting hotspot items so they don't, well, "miss a spot". Hopefully procrastination doesn't kick up >.<

Drilling as a non-Sense chara made me think of this >xD. I mean, without relying on Item Detector's locator circle and all.

"Non-Sense, no sense? NONSENSE!" xD

That's not true, Lloyd.  You're thinking small.  You gotta consider, what if your aim is off?  If you have 90 DA and you miss-click, you won't waste drill life.  Plus, I typically use my detection skills to just find hot spots, and wind up drilling blind until I get 3+ misses in a row.  Then I use it again to find stuff.  The only time I rely on my detection skills more than DA is when the items are widely spaced.  And even then, I just typically find a "generalized area" of stuff and then rely on my DA.

 

I'm working on a "Hotspots Revealed" addition to the "Hints and Tips" part...

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Yes, yes, I know that x.x;; and I am considering, yes... am I not? I think you missed my exact point T.T...
Nnnnn, can't think of a further explanation of what I want to say... The idea...

Damsel:

I'm working on a "Hotspots Revealed" addition to the "Hints and Tips" part...

T^T Me and my mis-explanations...

Uhm, from what I understand, "Hotspots Revealed", you are adding indication on actual Hotspots on maps... right? >.<;; I'm stating a different thing- to provide a Grid based on Theou's and mine's observation, but not actual hotspots on maps...
Hmm, my "This is nice especially for someone finding and exploiting hotspot items so they don't, well, "miss a spot"." statement must be the cause of confusion.

Damsel:

You gotta consider, what if your aim is off?

That's exactly the problem I'm trying to address on the Grid I'll be working on! T^T...

None of that makes Detection skills useless, though. o.0

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O.O;;; Did I say something like that? 

I meant to say the stat DetectionAbility, that was useless, not the detection skills. ^_^;;

And I meant to say useless DA in terms of exact "item excavation success"... Nyuh, however should I explain that "item excavation success" idea of mine >.<;; *thinks*

I don't think DA is useless either!  o.0  Not all classes can HAVE detection skills...and without those, you NEED DA.  Just because a certain area has common hotspots doesn't mean those spots are guaranteed to have stuff there.  You don't know that someone else didn't blow through 2 minutes before you and cleared it out.  You don't know that that spot is definitely going to be a hotspot on that day.  Without either a detection skill or 90 DA, you're drilling blind.

Even if DA does nothing else, it guarantees you won't waste drill life.  No matter how many grids you make, or how accurate said grids are, you can't be 100% sure that your cursor is going to click the way you want it to.  Without 90 DA, you can't be completely certain your drilling is going to be successful, even if you DO have a detection skill.

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Hey this is a question for getting TM while drilling.  I know that its good for low lv people but is the TM exp still good for high lv people as well? Like around lv 134 with a TM of 111?  Also does it make a difference where you drill to get exp like maybe more TM exp from some places?   Also drilling is considered a good way to get TM up isnt it?  or is grinding faster?

finaler:

I know that its good for low lv people but is the TM exp still good for high lv people as well? Like around lv 134 with a TM of 111?

It's good for high lvl people too, yes.  Because (see next answer). 

finaler:

Also does it make a difference where you drill to get exp like maybe more TM exp from some places?

Yes.  The deeper the soil, the more exp/tmexp.  Typically, higher level areas have deeper soil.  

finaler:

Also drilling is considered a good way to get TM up isnt it?  or is grinding faster?

I'm of the opinion that it's about the same, but only in special cases.  If you have a bracer and a MyShop drill such as Flicker, Hot or Bling, and you go and drill at Snow Mine, your tm will shoot up pretty fast.  Those drills multiply the exp/tmexp gained, Snow Mine is one of the deepest locations in the game, and 75% of the mine is just a giant hotspot, so it's very easy to actually pull things up.

You can do ok in Snow Mine with the few ig drills that can go 200m, and still get decent tmexp, but a MyShop drill will increase it exponentially.  Since the amount of exp gained doesn't change based on if you do or do not find something, your tmexp will climb faster than exp if you drill with complete success.  So you really need 90 DA to maximize your tmexp gain vs. exp gain.

If you want your tmexp to climb faster than exp before lvl 190ish, you should get good DA gear and drill frequently in deep places.

If you're too lazy to get and compound good DA gear, or you don't like drilling, or you can't get a hold of a drill that can go 200m, then yes, grinding would be faster.

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ok thank you ^^  I just need it to hit 120 or 3rd for now, then ill take a break and lv it some more later.  but thx for the info

This Guide is really great!

It helped me alot^^ thx

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