The greatest Christmas gift of NTREEV would be re-open the shops, open the guilds and other bug-fixes and the stupid hackers.
If they do something until there I would be happy. But if takes for next year I don't know...
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Shikisan: The greatest Christmas gift of NTREEV would be re-open the shops, open the guilds and other bug-fixes and the stupid hackers. If they do something until there I would be happy. But if takes for next year I don't know...
If that is what's on your Christmas list, I think Santa will be a tad late with your gifts. 2016 looks like a better year, sorry. ):
I always found it extremely peculiar how concerned players are usually the ones we see diligently coming together and making topics like these to brainstorm about what can be done about the issues that plague our servers, how to make this server better. To me, it's a scene that should probably be taking place in some random conference room at Ntreev US headquarters, instead of on the forums by people not even employed there, with no real obligation to the company/business/game.
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I think several of you are being really immature. Yes, there are lots of hackers out there but seeing a rookie with a rare item doesn't automatically make them one. You are being way too quick of accusing rookies of being one.
You place too much emphases on rank. Rank doesn't mean as much as you think it does. All it means is how much time you've spent playing versus matches. If someone were to play mostly tournaments then they would get little to no exp and would stay a rookie but could still earn a good amount of pang and papel coupons. I bought Arin when I was still a rookie and that's 32k pang. 64 papel attempts. It's very feasible that someone could get lucky and win in that amount of attempts, despite your horrid luck of trying hundreds of times and getting nothing.
Scratchy and gacha rates are based on how much real money you spend. Rank is irrelevant here. A rookie can spend just as much cash as any other rank. It all depends on how money they have to burn. If they have other older rare items then it's possible they're friends with a veteran player that lets them have or borrow their stuff. I know several people who do this. Or maybe they've traded with other players for points or whatever.
One last thing, rank does not determine skill level. It determines amount of time played. If you're naturally good at golf games like Mario Golf then even a rookie could start out being great. Not everyone starts out bad. Rookie does not equal bad player. It equals new player. So thinking a rookie can't be good enough to earn a a good amount of pang to win rare items is elitism.
How come GOA doesn't seem to have this problem?
Miraglyth: tigereyes12:i dont believe that our posters are only 10% of the game. And I don't believe that the segregation - accurate or not - is even relevant. When you have a sample of a group of people, unless that sample is split by a defining characteristic, it can be used to model the group of people, to a fair extent. In this case the only usable "defining characteristic" is "they use the forum" with the apparent follow-on logic being "because they want to complain more, ergo they are the biggest complainers".
tigereyes12:i dont believe that our posters are only 10% of the game.
And I don't believe that the segregation - accurate or not - is even relevant. When you have a sample of a group of people, unless that sample is split by a defining characteristic, it can be used to model the group of people, to a fair extent. In this case the only usable "defining characteristic" is "they use the forum" with the apparent follow-on logic being "because they want to complain more, ergo they are the biggest complainers".
Ok lets just say that us forum posters make up 10% of the player base. Personally I don't find that too far fetched. Next I think its safe to say that we the forum posters are players who are very committed to the game. If we weren't, why waste time reading thru all of this. So here you have a random sampling of some of the most committed players in the game voicing their opinions here. So for every one of us, reasonably there are say 10 or 100 or maybe 1000 non posting players that share our opinion but are not vocal about it or have the time to sift thru the forum. As I see it, we are representing the players who do not come to the forum. Now here in America, we elect Representitves to Congress to voice the opinions of those whom he/her represents. Now be it that we the forum posters are not elected, I do feel that we are volenteer representives of the community, We are representing the whole player base as a random sampling of said player base. Now lets just say for every one of us who is unhappy here, there are another 100 players who share that same opinion. So if there are 50 unhappy players here then there would be 5000 players who share that same opinion. Now the numbers I am using are not based on any accurate stats they are just used for example. BUT.......
I have to ask you, if there are 5000 unhappy players out there, what percent of the player base is that??
Anyone who thinks that the people in the forum are just a bunch of complainers is not really wrong. There is a lot of negetivity in here. However, if there are this many unhappy players in here, one must wonder how many more there are out there. Now I have always tried to be one in here who looks for the positive side of things. Lately that has begun to be harder and harder to do. But I have not lost all hope of things returning to "normal." I do believe that the staff at Ntreev is working on all of the problems we are experiencing. Because I really don't think that they want to provide a bad/defective product. I think the question is: Will they be able to solve all of them before it becomes a lost cause and the game shuts down. Brrrrr I don't like that thought. So I will keep a candle lit, put on a warm coat, and pray for sunny skies again. I love this game too much to see it die.
Mr. Glass is half full.
Actually, we are 10% of the Server, because the remaining 90% are Brs who cannot read/write/comprehend English.Therefore, they do not access the forums.
Numbers don't lie.
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SolidGnosis: Actually, we are 10% of the Server, because the remaining 90% are Brs who cannot read/write/comprehend English.Therefore, they do not access the forums. Numbers don't lie.
I've learn a lot of Portuguese in the game, and in this case, I should say "afffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff"
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LunarEmerald: Scratchy and gacha rates are based on how much real money you spend. Rank is irrelevant here. A rookie can spend just as much cash as any other rank. It all depends on how money they have to burn. If they have other older rare items then it's possible they're friends with a veteran player that lets them have or borrow their stuff. I know several people who do this. Or maybe they've traded with other players for points or whatever.
Most of the items we're talking about are neither tradeable nor obtainable in any legal way right now.
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LunarEmerald:I think several of you are being really immature. Yes, there are lots of hackers out there but seeing a rookie with a rare item doesn't automatically make them one.
Seeing a Rookie/beginner with an Afro does make them automatically a hacker. Seeing them with a Black Papel does automatically make them a hacker. Seeing them with a -40 and 60K on ANY course automatically makes them a hacker. Maybe there are some being immature, but you sir are Naive to the extreme.
Either that or you are a hacker yourself and are desperately trying to give some plausible deniability for when you are caught with all the cool swag you added to your account and never paid for. Just my OPINION of course
LunarEmerald:despite your horrid luck of trying hundreds of times and getting nothing.
As in close to 11,000 tries for me and having seen the red bag only once. and not winning it then. That's over three million pang and hundreds of papel coupons. That is pang that I spent real money on in the form of comets, pang mastery, and mascots. Not to mention the time I spent trying to earn it.
Sure you can say that is really just horrendously bad luck, but try going that long yourself and see if you still think "Oh, I'm just unlucky." And it is NOT just me. There are others, who maybe haven't tried as many clicks as I have, but who also haven't won a rare since Ntreev snatched this game back. THOUSANDS of tries with absolutely no reward, can you not understand the frustration, then, of seeing brand new accounts running around with tails and specs and masks and whatever the hell else they want to hack onto their account?
I won a rare!
LunarEmerald: .........
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You used that word again, and didn't bother giving a proper answer to the logic question I asked. Thanks so much, atleast I know you couldn't find a proper answer. -.-;
As for the emphasis towards rookies and beginners (lower ranks). This is found because guess what!? The rookies/beginners that you play with 99.9% of the time, are GASP rookie/beginners. They're using "NEW ACCOUNTS" to supply the one that Ntreev apparently can't manage to get rid of. Now if I were a smart man, oh look at that, I'd say, you're putting to much emphasis beside trying to get us to back off on this. So you are telling me, that this should be because, you got 32k pang, and you played maro golf. I played mario golf by the way, it in no way influenced my ability to play pangya, imagine that.. Until you can give some reason as to how this is an elitist view, then i think we need to consider to hold our 'elitist' view, because it's keeping alot of us from further becoming angry.
Next, the fact that you made a point to bring up your personal game play, does logically suggest, that you have a guilty conscience. Maybe the person above was correct, and someone 'should' look at your account.
Now, wether you are a hacker or not, I should give you a piece of sound advice to end this little notation. Don't spray water into a rhino's face. (Telling angered people, NOT to be judgemental. Good god you're mad.)
In reguards to original poster:
You're correct, it is sad that there are so many of our friends, taking leave, but we must be honest, what can we do about it? All the millions of times we have brought this to attention, and they fail to find it important enough, because of our numbers, and those that back us, because some people, like what I'm guessing happend above here... either hacked themselves, and play their role as the other quoted "90%" or, they buddied up with the hackers to get the items, once again, playing the 'happy' 90%. That's the only logical reason I could find 90% happy people, but don't worry when they stop sharing, it will change, and things will start moving. Hah yeah.
WNxWorry: LunarEmerald:I think several of you are being really immature. Yes, there are lots of hackers out there but seeing a rookie with a rare item doesn't automatically make them one. Seeing a Rookie/beginner with an Afro does make them automatically a hacker. Seeing them with a Black Papel does automatically make them a hacker. Seeing them with a -40 and 60K on ANY course automatically makes them a hacker. Maybe there are some being immature, but you sir are Naive to the extreme. Either that or you are a hacker yourself and are desperately trying to give some plausible deniability for when you are caught with all the cool swag you added to your account and never paid for. Just my OPINION of course LunarEmerald:despite your horrid luck of trying hundreds of times and getting nothing. THOUSANDS As in close to 11,000 tries for me and having seen the red bag only once. and not winning it then. That's over three million pang and hundreds of papel coupons. That is pang that I spent real money on in the form of comets, pang mastery, and mascots. Not to mention the time I spent trying to earn it. Sure you can say that is really just horrendously bad luck, but try going that long yourself and see if you still think "Oh, I'm just unlucky." And it is NOT just me. There are others, who maybe haven't tried as many clicks as I have, but who also haven't won a rare since Ntreev snatched this game back. THOUSANDS of tries with absolutely no reward, can you not understand the frustration, then, of seeing brand new accounts running around with tails and specs and masks and whatever the hell else they want to hack onto their account?
I agree with your comment 100% WnxWorry. and to LunarEmerald what rock did you hid under the past couple of weeks. Rookie accounts with a season 2/3 rare that is non-tradeble = hack. Me putting my money into this game anymore= me being robbed. I mean I love the new outfits and stuff that came out and I really want 2 get em. But whats the point of doing so when hackers out there are now able to get point items for free. Feels like to me as if the hackers are stealing from my wallet. This is why most of us are upset. Pangya just isnt the same fun pangya it used to be. Back to WnxWorry I feel your pain with papel shop. Except mine is with scratchy. I used o I would say about 250+ cards. Havent even caught a whiff of a rare. All replay tapes and callipers.
Well...I love this game, to the point of playing it for 4 years. I'm kinda a refugee from PangyaSEA [which is closed since eons ago, btw.], I fled to Alba18, and stayed with it till it closed down too.
I was kinda glad that NTreevUS took over Pangya, but looking at it as the way it is now, the happiness is actually fading away, and is being replaced by nothing.
I guess maybe because I'm used to seeing hackers, non-english spams...I'm kinda numb to it.
So now I guess it's either the ship sinks, or they manage to get all the rats out of the freaking ship.
P.S: 300k and 100 tickets, 1 red bag with nothing.
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I played Papel earlier for fun.
Spent 14k and saw the red bag twice. Didn't get it of course.
LunarEmerald:Spent 14k and saw the red bag twice.
Oh well that proves the rate is one red bag per 14k spent!
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My friend won 2 tails with 160 coupons. Just wanted to add this and btw I haven't win anything IN papel shop.
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