autocaliper and timebooster prices yuck


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tonycheese Posted: 05-20-2009 10:35 PM | Locked

the earths are a nice touch haha i liked them. and are the new clubs server exclusive? anyways they're cool... BUT

the prices ntreev has put on some of these items is a bit high (compared to other servers, which i think is a reasonable comparison). we're in a RECESSION HELLO.

 

autocalipers are 3$ now. alba prices were grossly overpriced on these things but - on goa they're about a dollar and in korea they're well under a dollar.

time boosters were 50 cents, they are now $1.20.

in both instances, these are repeated-use items that are double to triple the normal/expected/previous price. time boosters and autocals are really going to hit people hard with these new prices - i realize you're a business but can't you be more reasonable about something like this. all the other servers have similar prices nyah.

clubs, clothes, hair dyes are about the same comparatively.

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tonycheese replied on 05-20-2009 10:57 PM | Locked

but yeah otherwise, good update, unexpected for sure.

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mygosity replied on 05-20-2009 11:02 PM | Locked

Fully agreed. The prices seem too high. Right now they're 2-3x more than expected.

Highly recommend a revision on these two items for prices. Auto callipers get chewed up way too fast because players don't have a choice when to use it like they do with timeboosters and they are used every hole regardless of whether you choose to or not. Also considering how many players actually don't view these as useful, I just can't see how this price would see too many buyers on it. It should be lowered to 1000 points in my opinion.

Boosters should be around 500 if they're to be in line with our old prices.

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Revelus replied on 05-20-2009 11:43 PM | Locked

Definitely agree with these sentiments. Time Boosters get used up VERY quickly. I made 60 Time Boosters one day during recent weeks and ran out of them during the same day. I use Time Boosters sparingly as well, only really on PPICs / Ice Slides / random rage.

I have little experience with Auto-Calipers, but those go very quickly too. They were gone before I knew it on PangYa Korea (literally).

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GMLoki replied on 05-20-2009 11:59 PM | Locked

As I would say to Grand Chase or Trickster players as well, it's difficult to compare something as complex as economic theory across different publishers' versions, there are many different variables in play.  Not the least of which is of course the economic standing of the intended region, but you also have to consider any cultural differences which may affect perceptions regarding value.

While this is a broad generalization, eastern markets tend to prefer aesthetics and western markets tend to prefer functionality.  I don't think Decorations would sell well here, and accordingly they have all been made into Pang items here.  However, there are some games in the asian market specifically which are supported *exclusively* by the sale of purely aesthetic items.

By that metric, it would seem that functionality is in demand here since the two items that are specifically cited--Time Boosters and Auto Calipers--both provide exceptional functional value to the game.

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Jugiatsu replied on 05-21-2009 12:00 AM | Locked

I also agree, boosters need to come down.  Calipers not so much but a reduction would be nice.

Time Boosters should be around 500-600 points, no more.

Calipers around 2000-2200


EDIT: Since my post came right after Lokis.  Yes, they may provide functionality, but not appealing enough price wise to give the functionality that people REALLY need.  Whats better, having 100 people buy the time boosters at their price (2300) or having 2000 people buying MULTIPLE stacks of them at a cheaper price (500-600).  I dont need them if thats the case, and if others pay that price I must say I am very suprised.

Functionality only works if people are willing to pick it up in the 1st place.  Otherwise, great update though, looking forward to playing.

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Miraglyth replied on 05-21-2009 12:05 AM | Locked

Heh, the trap of demanding them too much.

Maybe they'll tweak prices based on popularity.


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gl0ry85 replied on 05-21-2009 12:30 AM | Locked

I agree with Tony.  Most serious players will already be purchasing caddie skins and mascots and the prices of the two items mentioned add too much to the monthly cost bill.

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tonycheese replied on 05-21-2009 2:29 AM | Locked

well i mean obviously you guys saw from the other servers that demand is high for these two items, so you decided to raise price accordingly.

but hugely increasing prices of things like time boosters over the previous publisher's prices will tick some people off. many players have seen the prices of items on goa and korea, so they knew what they were expecting when the shop was open.

prices like these on what are essentially necessary items for many people causes even more balance problems in the community.

 

of course, you made the trade-off between the players you'd lose all their spendings on vs how much you'd gain by charging more. i'm just here to let you know that keeping almost everything the same price, and then jacking up two items' prices 250-300% probably isn't going to sit well with a lot of people.

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meinards replied on 05-21-2009 2:56 AM | Locked

As I mentioned in other topic - prices are indeed higher. 3$ instead of 5$ for a-c... Ugh.. I prefered 0.9$ in KR... Where will you make profit more? From players who sue them all the time - therefor recharging regularly - or simply someone who has nothing better to do but buy 200 once a week/month?

Same goes for boosters. I'd much rather spend millions of pangs on Papel loto and get Power Calipers instead and simply make them. I know it will be a lot cheaper.

None the less, great update and fits the waiting time.

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HylianSH replied on 05-21-2009 2:57 AM | Locked

I would also like if the Time Boosters went down in price a decent amount. I'm not exactly a pro player by any means, but I still like to speed up time when I'm playing on the Ices or just not doing well at all. As such, about 1/5th of all my Cookie/Astro purchases from A18 went towards time boosters. After seeing the prices they are now, I highly doubt I'm even going to be to do that anymore and am probably only going to be able to buy one pack instead of three or four at a time.

Please change them to the price listed above. I'll love you guys even more than I already do if you do. :D

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zevyosho replied on 05-21-2009 3:20 AM | Locked

Well all I can really say that I'm that will be pointed out a million times, that the prices are really kinda high. I agree with tonycheese on this one, BUT I also side with Loki so it puts a strain on my itty bitty brain. Seriously, since my logic is "fallable" as many people put it I'll be brief, and then you guys can make fun of me as much as you want.

 These items are probably priced the way they are mainly due to demand. Decorations, like loki put it, are free now mainly because no one here actually bought them. The prices were jacked up on the said items because of the super high demand on them. TBQH this is a pretty good marketing strategy but the prices are TOO high. No one can buy as many which means low sales and a lot of people fuming and angry wanting to see the prices drop. I'd like to see a price drop as much as anyone else but how much is too much and how much is just enough. They can't be too low because Ntreev wouldn't get an amountable profit and it can't be too high or we'll have forum topics like this. Even if we went by how they cost on other servers. It may work for them but would it really work for us?  I REALLY want a lower price but still the ball is in ntreevs court. So far they really haven't let the player base down.

/soapbox

 Great update btw.

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meinards replied on 05-21-2009 4:32 AM | Locked

Somewhere same price as everywhere else would work for us... I'm sure about that lol.

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46Rossifan replied on 05-21-2009 4:41 AM | Locked

firstly its a great update, i'm very happy with the gifts, the island tour event and having the shop back :)

but i agree that the time boosters are priced too high, i was quite surprised to see that.shame

also i thought the ticker was quite costly, no one mentioned that? previous cost 1 cookie.:S

 

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meinards replied on 05-21-2009 5:25 AM | Locked

Now 0.35$. Everything here is like 3 times more expencive than any other server.

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