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ArkMaster364 Posted: 04-13-2009 10:40 AM

I have been lurking the Suggestion Forums for quite a while now and i must say...

Many suggestions have been repeated constantly by different people...Nerf him, Nerf her, Nerf that atk, I wanna start as a boy, yadayadayada...

If you're reading this, and you started to think of your own Ideas to improve GC then heres a few things that you MUST consider when making a specific type of suggestion

But first...a very important message

Have a brain Think before and while suggesting !!

By this we mean that you , the suggester should get informed about the subject you are suggesting and know each and every detail that has even the smallest relevance to your suggestion. If you just send in a suggestion like : Add new content for amy !!! ; and that`s it , well it is a completely moronic suggestion.
Here on the suggestion forums , you should think about your suggestions in depth and be smart enough to give detailed explanation to why you think your suggestion should be talked about between the game staff and maybe actually implemented.

-Credit goes to WirbleWind for this message-

1. Nerfing/Buffing Characters and/or enemies

If you're gonna make a Nerf [Character Name] or Nerf [Boss/Enemy]...You need to have a legimitate reason for it, and it must be agreed by many players of the game...

Example...of what to suggest

  • I want that they Nerf Ronan cause his Divine Slash cause far too much dmg than intended

Example...of what to not suggest

  • Nerf The girl chacs cause they OP, way more OP than the Boys, and its supposed to be the other way around

If you're suggesting due to you you not able to beat said Char/Enemy...Then learn to play better, and complain less...

2. Changing Job Missions, or suggesting New ones

I know many people have complained about changing the GP Job Change Missions cause they are time consuming ir because they are too hard...THATS THE POINT...they have complained about the drop rates being too low...Their rates are low but that doesnt mean they're impossible to get...They have complained about the 2nd Job having to collect 300 shards and that it should be lowered...They have complained bout the 3rd and 4th Jobs cause they arent very good in PvP...No one will support this because have have obtained them this way and it shouldn't be change just for your advantage...It is time consuming, but it can only be obtained through effort...Also...Keep this in mind...Grand Chase is a "Fighting/PvP" Type of MMO...No matter what...You'll have to PvP here...thats why we have missions that have reqs where you have to win...

3. Adding New Content to the game...

It is very hard for Ntreev to put New features to the game because Korea's KoG is the main developer of GC but if you can come up with a VERY good idea, it may be possible for the KoG developers to put your idea to work...but dont expect EVERY idea put here to be inplemented, because it is at Ntreev's and KoG's discretion

However, you must put up a good introduction about it, explain it and show why it could be good for GC...

4. Armor/weapon Ideas

If you suggest weapons/armors that are missing from the list, dont keep suggesting it, because NAGC is being constantly updated, all armors will come at their Due Time...

However if you wanna suggest new armor and weapons, use the following format for a better description about it

Item name : -the item's name-
Description : -what do you see as a description when you hover your mouse over the item-
Item type : -Is it a weapon , accessory or w/e?-
Price : -The price of the weapon , duh-
Shop : -This goes with the type and price (if it's P.up then it has it's own shop zone :p)
Level : -Obviously ...-
Looks : -2.5D/3D image would be best suited but a 2D image is good too-
Stats : Divided in
-----> Attack    =
-----> Defense =
-----> Vitality  =
Abilities : -If it's a pet it can have abilities , a set can have an ability too (look at the newest Saku's set , has a 5% more defense)-

[Credit goes to WirbleWind for making the format]

5. Event Ideas

If you wish for an original event made by your suggestion, it must have a good introduction to back it up, what prizes if could provide and how it could be an entertaining for the community

6. Nerfing and/or eliminating Grabs

There is a very bad reputation behing grabs because they cause more dmg than skills but that doesnt mean that they're the only way to win...using grabs is either strategic or very barbaric to use...That is still no reason to take grabs off...They were developed to increase the competitive spirit in PvP. Grabs are used to cancel skills and cause moderate dmg but its part of PvP these days, and theres no reason to remove it....I know theres many kinds of grabs that are manipulated to one person's advantage but even these grabs have a blind spot and it is up to you to find out what it is.

7. Trade System

The trade system is a big negatory in GC...This system has many flaws that are very hard to fix...Mnay people have suggested Trades and limiting them to certain people but its still something that has its flaws that cant be worked out...Until someone comes out with an idea to make trading foolproof against abusers, dont suggest the Trading system UNLESS you have found every way that it can be manipulated and abused and find a way for it to be fair...However...Remember that GC doesnt have the many rare items to support this system

[So far, ZeroSong is the only person to have made a Trade System without any known exploitable flaws, so if you want a trade system, it is best to support her suggestion] http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/t/39322.aspx 

8. Suggesting New Characters

New characters are for the fan media, and Ntreev has no authorization to add new characters whose ideas were suggested by players...The 9th Character SiegHart the Gladiator still haven't been released and until then, no new characters will be added, so dont suggest new characters, instead, show them off in the Fan Media.

 9. Necklace Suggestion

Many people have been complaining about the necklaces being impossible to level up, but they are not impossible to level up. The necklace rates vary from time to time and they are all different for every player ( aka its all luck). There is already people who have L9 Necklaces, so that proves its not impossible for that. You need the time and gems to get them, just take your time.

You can suggest New elemental necklaces and hope they can be implemented, just be reasonable about the suggestion

10. Starting as a Male Character, and not a Female Character

This suggestion is a huge NO cause...Unlike other MMOs, Grand Chase follows a storyline, involving the 3 Starter characters Elesis, Lire and Arme. In order to preserve that storyline, you must use the female characters...There are many console games where you have to start off as a girl, so you can unlock the male characters later on...Grand Chase follows the same principle. There's 4 male characters, 2 easily obtained, 1 which is a bit time consuming and one that takes a high leveled character to unlock. Many who complain about why you have to start with a girl are ofetn labeled Sexists, and are scorned by the community...Also, using a female character even though you're a boy has nothing to do with your sexual preferences. After all, 80% of the ingame community who are boys often use the females and it doesnt make them any different....Also...Once you use the females, you figure out that the females have strong points that overcome their weaknesses and makes them far more useful and reliable than the male chars.

11. Lifting Region Blocks

Region Blocks are placed there for the following reasons...The following info comes from Forum Mod:SeraphSinger

1. Latency issues. The longer the distance from the main server. The greater the "lag" will be.

2. Currency fluctuation may affect with the payment of ntreev. It would be more difficult to solve an issue if a predicament arise.

3. If a region has a license. Then one should play in their own region. That way, 1 and 2 will create less problem.

4. Ntreev is under contract. Contract is voided if Ntreev goes against what the contract says.

 

Also...from Forum Mod: CujoEX

                



About: Region Blocked
Due to our licensing agreement, certain regions which already have a local release of Grand Chase will be blocked from accessing the North American release of Grand Chase.



Note: If you were from the Grand Chase Japan or Grand Chase SouthEast Asia, their region server has been shut down.  Currently, there is no news about Grand Chase North America unlocking the access to this region. 

 So if you live in the regions that the above list says, play in your region.

 

I know there's a couple of things missing from this list,  but i will constantly change this whenever theres a suggestion being constantly suggested by multiple people...Anyone...what do you think of this?

Also...if you find anything that may sound...out of bounds, dont hesitate to let me know So if you live in the regions that the above list says, play in your region

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I love this thread.

Let me say that.

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I think we have a winner of the second sticky award ^_^ lol

Great Idea Arks this way we can go.

Read This First <insert this threads url here>

then come back in about 100 years -_- since your thread lacks any skill. (I am being so mean from now on some of these topics)

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ZeroSong2927:

 

then come back in about 100 years -_- since your thread lacks any skill. (I am being so mean from now on some of these topics)

join the club

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Yay, me happy that someone finally made my suggestion to post something like this come true. :) Thanks Ark!

On topic however, I think putting specific suggestions that will definitely be shot down should be posted. Such as

1. Nerfing/Eliminating Grabs.
2. The trading of GP and Cash items among players
3. Adding new characters (?) - I'm not 100% sure on this one, but it had better be a pretty darn good character if KoG/Ntreev is going to take the idea all the way to the Korean GC technicians.
4. Extending the 999,999 GP limit (at least... I'm pretty doubtful on this one...)

Those are the only ones I can think of as of right now. There are probably more along those lines.

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xSerenax:

Yay, me happy that someone finally made my suggestion to post something like this come true. :) Thanks Ark!

On topic however, I think putting specific suggestions that will definitely be shot down should be posted. Such as

1. Nerfing/Eliminating Grabs.
2. The trading of GP and Cash items among players
3. Adding new characters (?) - I'm not 100% sure on this one, but it had better be a pretty darn good character if KoG/Ntreev is going to take the idea all the way to the Korean GC technicians.
4. Extending the 999,999 GP limit (at least... I'm pretty doubtful on this one...)

Those are the only ones I can think of as of right now. There are probably more along those lines.

3 is meant for the Fan media either way since suggestion a character is pretty pointless.

Agree to the others as they are beginning to annoy me with the redundancy.

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All right, i'll be adding the ones Serenax said because they're true

EDIT: I didnt add " Extending GP limit" cause i really havent seen many threads about it

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Gp extension has popped up recently in a few places, but-imho-isn't quite often enough for the 'Do not Call' list. 

 

As for trading.. I'm worried that putting that on the list would kill off the 'Couples trade' suggestion that was made earlier which got some good support and, imo, sounds like a good idea when set up properly. 

Otherwise, I Support the suggestion of stickying this thread, though with an amendment that we be VERY ***VERY*** careful on what we write as 'improper'.  I like how the 'nerf' suggestion section was handled (instead of saying "Stop talking about nerfs", which hints at "NEVER CHANGE THE GAME" mentality and ignores the threads that DID bring up decent debate).

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If this is updated very well, and handled correctly, I see no reason why I shouldn't sticky the thread. However it is also up to the other forumers to check and correct information regarding the topic. So help out whenever you can.

Enjoy your sticky.

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Yay, Sticky!!!

For once, being sticky is a good thing!

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dakarian:

Gp extension has popped up recently in a few places, but-imho-isn't quite often enough for the 'Do not Call' list. 

 

As for trading.. I'm worried that putting that on the list would kill off the 'Couples trade' suggestion that was made earlier which got some good support and, imo, sounds like a good idea when set up properly. 

Otherwise, I Support the suggestion of stickying this thread, though with an amendment that we be VERY ***VERY*** careful on what we write as 'improper'.  I like how the 'nerf' suggestion section was handled (instead of saying "Stop talking about nerfs", which hints at "NEVER CHANGE THE GAME" mentality and ignores the threads that DID bring up decent debate).

 

1. i never seen a GP extension suggestion, so...no comment :P

2...I havent seen the couples trade system yet, so i'll have to check it out

3....Yea...one wrong word and this whole thread burns down...I'll depend on you guys to correct me asap if i say something wrong...This thread needs to be written maturely otherwise it will just be "another random rant"

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SeraphSinger:

If this is updated very well, and handled correctly, I see no reason why I shouldn't sticky the thread. However it is also up to the other forumers to check and correct information regarding the topic. So help out whenever you can.

Enjoy your sticky.

I will not fail you :P

Thanks for the sticky

Like Seraph says, keep the info up to date and i'll need your help to correct me if i write something wrong

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ArkMaster364:

dakarian:

Gp extension has popped up recently in a few places, but-imho-isn't quite often enough for the 'Do not Call' list. 

 

As for trading.. I'm worried that putting that on the list would kill off the 'Couples trade' suggestion that was made earlier which got some good support and, imo, sounds like a good idea when set up properly. 

Otherwise, I Support the suggestion of stickying this thread, though with an amendment that we be VERY ***VERY*** careful on what we write as 'improper'.  I like how the 'nerf' suggestion section was handled (instead of saying "Stop talking about nerfs", which hints at "NEVER CHANGE THE GAME" mentality and ignores the threads that DID bring up decent debate).

 

 

1. i never seen a GP extension suggestion, so...no comment :P

2...I havent seen the couples trade system yet, so i'll have to check it out

3....Yea...one wrong word and this whole thread burns down...I'll depend on you guys to correct me asap if i say something wrong...This thread needs to be written maturely otherwise it will just be "another random rant"

You actually covered the "nerfing" part well because you said "Do not suggest a nerf or power up unless you have a legitamate reason".

This means now ranting coz you suck at pvp against....lets just say Lire? Anyone?....Anyways, this isn't a reason to nerf Lire because you get your Fire Bolt! handed to you on a silver or gold platter. Train harder, grind better, dodge faster, complain less -_-.

 

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Nao zero's post is not on the top anymoar!

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Great thread,  the normal gamer rates this a.....EPIC WIN/10!

Canz I eat your heart pl0x? Thanks bro.

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