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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Tips &amp; Tricks</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/18.aspx</link><description>Share your best Tips &amp;amp; Tricks to the Chaser community.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87354.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:55:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:87354</guid><dc:creator>Zhon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87354.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=87354</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Drakknightbl:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Okiesmokie:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;zachzzz:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well as i can see you&amp;#39;re saying how to do better in dungeons i would call that Player versus enemy &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PvE"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PvE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reading is good for the soul.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;haha thanks for this link that should clarify a lot of stuff.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the face....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyway; knockdown is especially annoying when you&amp;#39;re playing as a mage and you cast meteor, -_-...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But actually, sending enemies into the air (knock up rather than knock down?&amp;nbsp; Sounds odd...) is good if you want to kill them without risk of taking damage.&amp;nbsp; I.E. I can juggle Gaikoz to death solo on Arme after one earth wave...&amp;nbsp; Or on any other character with the help of a Lire.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87350.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:54:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:87350</guid><dc:creator>Drakknightbl</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87350.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=87350</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Okiesmokie:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;zachzzz:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well as i can see you&amp;#39;re saying how to do better in dungeons i would call that Player versus enemy &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PvE"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PvE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reading is good for the soul.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;haha thanks for this link that should clarify a lot of stuff.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87331.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:38:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:87331</guid><dc:creator>Okiesmokie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87331.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=87331</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;zachzzz:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Well as i can see you&amp;#39;re saying how to do better in dungeons i would call that Player versus enemy &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PvE"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PvE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reading is good for the soul.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87288.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:49:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:87288</guid><dc:creator>zachzzz</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87288.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=87288</wfw:commentRss><description>Well as i can see you&amp;#39;re saying how to do better in dungeons i would call that Player versus enemy &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87261.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:59:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:87261</guid><dc:creator>Drakknightbl</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87261.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=87261</wfw:commentRss><description>Well you gotta open up and know that theres a lot of meaning as I said PVE in this case stands for Player Versus Enviroment. I&amp;#39;ve heard of Player Versus Enemy but in this case its enviroment as stated.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87243.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:25:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:87243</guid><dc:creator>zachzzz</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87243.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=87243</wfw:commentRss><description>umm PVE means person VS enemy(as in NPC enemy non Pvp)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87058.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:53:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:87058</guid><dc:creator>Drakknightbl</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/87058.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=87058</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Vpower:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Isn&amp;#39;t Earthquake activated with the UP arrow instead of the DOWN arrow? Or is it just me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and yay for no-knockdowns~ (really, in every random room I get in,&amp;nbsp; the monsters I&amp;#39;m fighting always gets knocked down &amp;gt;.&amp;gt;.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh btw. maybe a bit of a stupid tip, but when running with Elesis (and Ronan probably too), when you want to attack a monster, jump first and then attack. That way you don&amp;#39;t get a knock down... or is that a bad idea? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;haha right my bad I&amp;#39;ll change that now... havent played mage for so long too use to&amp;nbsp; :P&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;not bad haha nice tip I&amp;#39;ll add it later&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ll add/ update when I got more time &amp;gt;&amp;lt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/86921.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:02:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:86921</guid><dc:creator>Miracle12</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/86921.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=86921</wfw:commentRss><description>Nice guide, knocking down is really annoying. where&amp;#39;s lass&amp;#39;s guide in this too? you&amp;#39;re missing thief&amp;#39;s guide too&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/86894.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:11:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:86894</guid><dc:creator>SamSmellsPie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/86894.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=86894</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;its up for the earthquake and yes knock down is HELLA anooying seriously &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/86454.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:19:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:86454</guid><dc:creator>Vpower</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/86454.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=86454</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Isn&amp;#39;t Earthquake activated with the UP arrow instead of the DOWN arrow? Or is it just me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and yay for no-knockdowns~ (really, in every random room I get in,&amp;nbsp; the monsters I&amp;#39;m fighting always gets knocked down &amp;gt;.&amp;gt;.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh btw. maybe a bit of a stupid tip, but when running with Elesis (and Ronan probably too), when you want to attack a monster, jump first and then attack. That way you don&amp;#39;t get a knock down... or is that a bad idea? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>PVE Tips and Manner</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/86136.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:25:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:86136</guid><dc:creator>Drakknightbl</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/86136.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=86136</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Okay so that theres a patch I guess I&amp;#39;ll write something that may be of some use to newbs who read the forum. Especially since they always do the wrong things and cause the dungeon to take longer.=.=&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Guess in case for those who may ask PVE means &amp;quot;Player VS Enviroment&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Knight&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Knights should use the 4- hit combo (z-z-z-z)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;or 3 hit combo (z-z-z) easier to avoid &amp;quot;jump&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dash attacks are avoided as they cause knock down&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To avoid using dash attack wait 1 sec after dashing then attack or...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As Vpower suggested use a jump attack while dashing and a knockdown is prevented&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do not use the &amp;quot;up combo&amp;quot; unless you&amp;#39;re sure you&amp;#39;ll kill or to avoid an attack&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Avoid using Megaslash as it knocks them down&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use Sonic Wave more after grouping mons&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use Air Spiral when 1 surface below the mobs or boss&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Archer&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Archer should fire only 4 shots and avoid shooting the last shot as it knocks down.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dash Attack&amp;nbsp;should be&amp;nbsp;avoided as it is also knocksdown&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Arrow Rain used below mobs are strong&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Personal Preference of Big Shot at the back is more effective :P&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Mage&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use Magic Circle against mob as its best attack, just be careful not to hit the mobs out of someone elses Special&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Watch for &amp;quot;jumps&amp;quot; and use eathquake to avoid&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use earthquake (z-z-down) only when in threat as this knocksdown the mob&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Keep shield (White magic 1mp) up at all times as it saves from time to time&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Spell Knight&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To avoid using dash attack wait 1 sec after dashing then attack or...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As Vpower suggested use a jump attack while dashing and a knockdown is prevented&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use Blast Bomb as it only uses two bars and sometimes regen quickly if it hits correctly&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;never use your double attack as it knocks down&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Luntic Force on boss is better as it locks the place so you can deal additional damage and gain mp&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Try to keep holy bless on your team&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Avoid dash attacks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Theif&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For theif try to avoid using the last hit of the dash attack&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dont use the double attack that launches the mob into the air as this is a knockdown&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dont use feather strike as it knocksdown unless using the invincibility time&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Using the repetative z move is good, but watch when fighting enemies like mongan, Warrior Orc or Amon Guard as your delay is long&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fatal Attack (2nd Mp) and Final Strike should be saved to used on mobs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fatal Attack only has a 50% chance to deal critical damage so its a risk&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use Kunai (up - up- hold down + z) when enemy is in super armour or like when a dark mage is in a cloud&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Overall Manner&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Try not to knock down in most situation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do not like force people to heal they have their own choice&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do not steal Items from Alchemist as it takes 3 bars for them to make it&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pick up items if a person dies so it isnt wasted&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When in a room if the host does not want you there leave and find another room&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let Alchemists and Mages to charge when in portal cause this uses the five seconds to get a bar of mp which could lead to Metoer and more Healing&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Overall I skipped the second jobs cause I dont feel like writing it now and that I dont have much experience for now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So this is most probably for people who have just started&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ummm please give comments as this is the first time writing a tip &amp;gt;.O&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;EDIT:Added Vpower&amp;#39;s Suggestion&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Added Theif Tips&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>