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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Tips &amp; Tricks</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/18.aspx</link><description>Share your best Tips &amp;amp; Tricks to the Chaser community.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/576448.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:49:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:576448</guid><dc:creator>n1nj4bl4st3r</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/576448.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=576448</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I dont think this is the same mechanic behind zhon&amp;#39;s bomb otto (or any other melee otto for that matter).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The trick is you walk to the ledge, and without releasing the arrow key, double-tap quickly the arrow key to the opposite side and cast a skill just as you start to dash. If you do it right, your character will actually slide backwards a bit (it&amp;#39;s more noticeable on mage).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Walking off an edge casting a skill backwards is actually a lot easier than doing the bomb otto.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/576222.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:43:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:576222</guid><dc:creator>speeeed</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/576222.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=576222</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;imaging if you dashed off the ledge and used a skill the second before you dashed off&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/576188.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:09:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:576188</guid><dc:creator>icyblaze</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/576188.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=576188</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;-tries a quick attempt with bomb otto and fails- D: took me like couple mins just to get one bomb in and gave up lol&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/575650.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:43:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:575650</guid><dc:creator>Aleall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/575650.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=575650</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;d love to see someone cornered that way&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/575285.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:13:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:575285</guid><dc:creator>iHero</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/575285.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=575285</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Lol showoff zhon.. but that&amp;#39;s basically it xDD easier to show than explain i suppose &amp;lt;333 ty for the proof zhon&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now if zhon mastered that..he can throw bombs infinitely extremely fast xDDD&amp;nbsp; i would hope to see someone capable of this someday but i&amp;#39;m afraid it&amp;#39;s too impossible T.T&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/575084.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:31:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:575084</guid><dc:creator>Aleall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/575084.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=575084</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Zhon:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;iHero:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this can be done with all characters for showing off purposes only.. it&amp;#39;s near impossible to master and is one of the most advanced things you can do on gc&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mechanics for backwards skill: Walk off ledge and turn back so your character pops back up and use skill the instant you&amp;#39;re back on ledge.. your character will still be sliding and you can skill backwards off ledge..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this can also be done with any other move or used to otto 5x faster than down z otto with melee characters.. again, it&amp;#39;s near impossible to perfect so be advised not to depend on it during real matches...&amp;nbsp; I find doing it with warlock is the easiest if anyone plans on practicing&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-SIZE:medium;"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-FAMILY:comic sans ms,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#9900ff;"&gt;:D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Please visit the site to view this media)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Omg...I&amp;#39;m learning that if it kills me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574945.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:57:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574945</guid><dc:creator>Zhon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574945.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574945</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;iHero:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this can be done with all characters for showing off purposes only.. it&amp;#39;s near impossible to master and is one of the most advanced things you can do on gc&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mechanics for backwards skill: Walk off ledge and turn back so your character pops back up and use skill the instant you&amp;#39;re back on ledge.. your character will still be sliding and you can skill backwards off ledge..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this can also be done with any other move or used to otto 5x faster than down z otto with melee characters.. again, it&amp;#39;s near impossible to perfect so be advised not to depend on it during real matches...&amp;nbsp; I find doing it with warlock is the easiest if anyone plans on practicing&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#9900ff;"&gt;:D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Please visit the site to view this media)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574904.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:17:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574904</guid><dc:creator>Aleall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574904.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574904</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;iHero:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this can be done with all characters for showing off purposes only.. it&amp;#39;s near impossible to master and is one of the most advanced things you can do on gc&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mechanics for backwards skill: Walk off ledge and turn back so your character pops back up and use skill the instant you&amp;#39;re back on ledge.. your character will still be sliding and you can skill backwards off ledge..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this can also be done with any other move or used to otto 5x faster than down z otto with melee characters.. again, it&amp;#39;s near impossible to perfect so be advised not to depend on it during real matches...&amp;nbsp; I find doing it with warlock is the easiest if anyone plans on practicing&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So it&amp;#39;s similar to Lire&amp;#39;s edge otto? Where she walks off, shoots an ariel arrow, and pops back up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Same thing with different timing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@Beard, Lire can&amp;#39;t run or air dash, therefore she can&amp;#39;t break step. There&amp;#39;s nothing to break. Archer cannot do any steps I believe&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574772.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:55:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574772</guid><dc:creator>iHero</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574772.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574772</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;this can be done with all characters for showing off purposes only.. it&amp;#39;s near impossible to master and is one of the most advanced things you can do on gc&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mechanics for backwards skill: Walk off ledge and turn back so your character pops back up and use skill the instant you&amp;#39;re back on ledge.. your character will still be sliding and you can skill backwards off ledge..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this can also be done with any other move or used to otto 5x faster than down z otto with melee characters.. again, it&amp;#39;s near impossible to perfect so be advised not to depend on it during real matches...&amp;nbsp; I find doing it with warlock is the easiest if anyone plans on practicing&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574771.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:51:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574771</guid><dc:creator>beardwars</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574771.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574771</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I believe she just does a breakstep and lets go of the mp bar as it starts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do this with elesis, never tried it with lire O.o, i think breakstep makes backwards sliding easy, instead of doing demon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574674.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:54:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574674</guid><dc:creator>Aleall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574674.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574674</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Ledgings a fail name :( I like sliding so much more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And just fast fingers I think. Sliding off while switching directions and releasing mp is all I can think of.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Make for a hell of a lot more impactful flame arrow&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574182.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:18:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574182</guid><dc:creator>AurazZ</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574182.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574182</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574178.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:13:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574178</guid><dc:creator>XsaEx</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574178.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574178</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;AeroJest:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#008000;"&gt;I haven&amp;#39;t got a clue how to do this step but.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#008000;"&gt;Warlock can walk backwards...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#008000;"&gt;....Just saying...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I figured someone would say that, and considering it&amp;#39;s completely beside my point ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/emoticons/py28.gif" alt="oo;" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574101.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:18:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574101</guid><dc:creator>AeroJest</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574101.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574101</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#008000;"&gt;I haven&amp;#39;t got a clue how to do this step but.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#008000;"&gt;Warlock can walk backwards...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#008000;"&gt;....Just saying...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lire 1st job "Backstep" ?? [VIDEO]</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574094.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:13:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:574094</guid><dc:creator>XsaEx</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/574094.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=574094</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;KoreanChobo:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;XsaEx:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;KoreanChobo:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Umm I believe it&amp;#39;s just falling off a ledge while using a skill &lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/emoticons/py05.gif" alt=":)" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;That is called ledging and is very easy to learn. If you didn&amp;#39;t notice, watch the video again. He actually falls off a ledge and shoot the skill BACKWARDS, thus the name BACKstep.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;^_^&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;EDIT:// inb4 someone says warlock^^&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Umm maybe turn then fall of the ledge? lol&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Idk &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not a lire player&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;d like to see you turn and WALK BACKWARDS and fall off a ledge with ANY character.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The point was for someone who knew how to do it to explain it.&lt;/p&gt;
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