Tips & Tricks

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

N0nE11 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:16:13 GMT

Wow. nice job thanks for helping the community of knights out there!

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

TehAzn — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:35:05 GMT

Well, you said that it was somewhat rushed, and I do see quite a bit of spell/grammer errors. Nevertheless, great guide, you get a +K from me.

However, would have to disagree with the opinion that Otto is useless in Dungeons. If executed correctly, you can kill an enemy faster than any other attack that Knight has in her arsenal. It's all about how good you are with otto. Course people would rather do a combo if they can't hit more than 2~3 times with otto, but people who can infinitely and quickly use otto can do efficient dmg/fast mp restoration/and become immune to "Jump Cues"

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

Fuikosan — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:53:40 GMT

This is just way too awesome. Very well detailed and well explained. Was such a long read to look at but ended up reading the whole thing lol.

I'm not much of a melee user but lol, after reading this, I went ahead and played Elesis on practice mode. xD Would probably check it out later. I dunno. xD

And yes. We need more role players. x_x My bro who's a newbie plays quite an ok Elesis. How? With the Aerial Enders he groups up the mobs for his team mates to finish. :P

This guide is a 4.9/5! xD Spelling is a must!!! hahaah. xD Kidding. :P

I'm a Lire/Arme user and this guide just made me understand Elesis better.

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

ninjutsu123 — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:55:53 GMT

how do u heal with ronan?

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

damentorkat — Thu, 15 May 2008 06:14:45 GMT

^^ Turned out beautiful man good work XD

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

KhaosFrog — Sun, 11 May 2008 08:08:34 GMT

Thank you for both your praize, and your interest; Not to mention the bumpage. Its suppossed to be a guide targeted to Having both basic and slightly advanced Information, You'd be surprised at the things players over look while working at mastering other things. I will get around to updating/ Spell Checking as soon as I can. ^^

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

Takyi — Sun, 11 May 2008 03:20:50 GMT

Ummm... please check your spelling and Grammar but overall very good but most of the stuff is able to be learned over a short time period.

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

KhaosFrog — Mon, 05 May 2008 22:07:11 GMT

CrossfireX:

Good guide! Thumbs up^^
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Though, the name of the first bar attack is Mega Slash(when Elesis says it out) and a bow Lire can control her shoots into a 4hit combo.
But most don't so I kinda agree with you XD

<.< Got it confused with the 3 bar mana attack for the Spear Maidens. Thanks for the heads up, as well as the compliment. Glad you enjoyed the Guide. Ill correct that Mistake soon.

as For Lire being able to stagger her shots so as to only shoot 4 shots without a dodge arrow. Yesh. yesh she can, and its easy... prohided theres no one near her in striking distance. But everytime she lets loose 4 arrows, as stated above, there is a Animation pause time that causes her to not be able to move for about a second or two, and being as Lire is my second class, lemme tell you. That can equal hurt. Alot of hurt. The dodge arrow instantly snaps them out of there combo and allows a Archer to move again. Weather it be her 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th shot. And if she needs to move. Shes going to dodge, and like I said befor, that dodge arrow has to go somwhere.

shadowofice:

O.o You know that dash move too! The "advanced dash move." Wow I thought only I knew it. My friends always ask why I can move so quickly with that lol. I use it as a replacement for shadowstep(my fingers can't do that.)
I like the one with air spiral when hitting the monsters during an aerial. Never done that. Nice guide.

Ive heard people use that term Shadow Step befor. What exactly *is* Shadow step? O.o

Zhon:

Nice guide, I don't play Elesis much but I found some of it pretty useful...
And personally, I'm an Arme fan, and I have to say that I absolutely detest working with an Elesis in a dungeon <.<
It's like.... Hyeeaah~ Fiireee - - *enemy goes flying across the screen* storm? *zero damage*
D:

Knights and Mages are accuily a very good, deadly combination. Provided they both know a bit about how the other class works. Youve just been meeting bad ones. Me and good Buddie DamentorKat, whos main is a mage, completely oblitterate things.

Suyasi:
Aye.. me as well... It's like *throws body back* Dive Bomb! ... ... ... *miss* -enemy is in invulnerable getting up status- [.. Be so glad this isn't friendly fire or I'd be SHOOTING YOU too blasted knight.]
Anyways the guide is really useful, but you have several spelling/grammar errors which aren't really a big deal but your guide is so organized I'd hope you would fix them.

Ya but come on now. Xbows get crazy Mana. other classes are lucky to get 3 bars a stage while Xbows get like a total of 6. Do what I do, Aim your harpy so it will strike at a line of downward foes. Its hard for everyone else to tell where your harpys gonna go. Im not saying its right for them to be dumb. But ya gotta cut people a little slack with dive bombing. Alot of people dont have Xbow and dont understand how that skill works, it not exactly like the spear maidens skills where they can just glace at it and instantly get how it works. They dont know that that harpy = 2k damage of sheer ebil damagafication.

meh, Like i said Real life stuff pressing down on me. Im not sure if ill have time to sit down and go threw my speeling/gramer any time soon :\

leonid1995:
REally good guide thats for sure.

thankie!

g0g:

well i had a question about this part of the guide:
Lift and Air Spiral: This is a pretty advanced technique I learned when Playing with CujoEX. Normaly I can't remember Whome I learned what from. But this I distintly remember Who I learned it from so... Theres your props. Now, Not only is this technique advanced, but its really tricky to preform and can be easily Messed up by an ignorant team mate. It Follows the Charging Mana within a combo princible. Attack a Foe that can be Aireal launched and hit it with the first 3 strikes of the knights Combo, upon the 4th strike (Thrust) Hold the *Z* button down and begin to charge your Mana. Now the thrust Has a long animation time, Let it go until the last possible moment befor hitting *Up* to instigate a Aireal Ender, whist continuing to hold Z. The first attack of the Aireal combo will knock the foe up into the air, then when the Knight jumps up herself and hangs a moment befor hitting with the second strike of the aireal ender. Release the Z button. By this time. If you have done it correctly you will have built up your 3 bars; and though your jumping off the ground, the Game See you as being on the ground still (which is why Jump ques still hit you). Be sure to release it Befor the second strike or it wont work! and make sure the foe itself is near you to get caught within the freeze area, and also Diaginal upward so that it gets hit by the full force of the upand coming Air spiral. This technique basicly recreatates the optimal condictions for your Air spiral attack. Forcing them up above you in a diaginal Line upaboe you, and reoplacing the Back attack multipler with a Aireal one.
can this be done in pvp and practice mode as well? or does it require a little bit of lag to fully hit 3MP bar?

I dont think so on both counts. Best boss to practice it on is Gaiko.. and No. No lag required. You just have to let the thrust go to the last possible second befor hitting up, and make sure you release when the foe is in the right spot to get the full blunt of the air spiral, befor the knight Slams them back toward the earth with the second blow in the aireal ender.

lilneko:

I really like this guide and I like it more that you referenced mine in it It almost makes me want to finish it...<.< *kicks Sortie*

Anyways, these are all good points and I even learned one or two extra things from it, (Lift and Air Spiral, Force to Face) But yeah, this guide is awesome, you just need to fix your spelling errors and grammar.

Thankies. Your guide was good to ^^ I never thought about Cancels at all until I read it.

as for spelling.. :P Like I said. Not anytime soon <.< I wanna I just dont think ill have time life being as it is.

Desor:
A second way to disengage your mana charge is pressing enter, letting go of z, and pressing enter again. for when you don't want to leave yourself open to attack while jumping.

Thank you. But that accuily already in the guide under Disengaging a mana charge. I personly Only use that way to negate the frozen state enduced when a archer/xbow charges while standing in one spot.

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

Desor — Mon, 05 May 2008 20:42:08 GMT

A second way to disengage your mana charge is pressing enter, letting go of z, and pressing enter again. for when you don't want to leave yourself open to attack while jumping.

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

lilneko — Mon, 05 May 2008 20:19:41 GMT

I really like this guide and I like it more that you referenced mine in it It almost makes me want to finish it...<.< *kicks Sortie*

Anyways, these are all good points and I even learned one or two extra things from it, (Lift and Air Spiral, Force to Face) But yeah, this guide is awesome, you just need to fix your spelling errors and grammar.

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

g0g — Mon, 05 May 2008 20:13:49 GMT

well i had a question about this part of the guide:

Lift and Air Spiral: This is a pretty advanced technique I learned when Playing with CujoEX. Normaly I can't remember Whome I learned what from. But this I distintly remember Who I learned it from so... Theres your props. Now, Not only is this technique advanced, but its really tricky to preform and can be easily Messed up by an ignorant team mate. It Follows the Charging Mana within a combo princible. Attack a Foe that can be Aireal launched and hit it with the first 3 strikes of the knights Combo, upon the 4th strike (Thrust) Hold the *Z* button down and begin to charge your Mana. Now the thrust Has a long animation time, Let it go until the last possible moment befor hitting *Up* to instigate a Aireal Ender, whist continuing to hold Z. The first attack of the Aireal combo will knock the foe up into the air, then when the Knight jumps up herself and hangs a moment befor hitting with the second strike of the aireal ender. Release the Z button. By this time. If you have done it correctly you will have built up your 3 bars; and though your jumping off the ground, the Game See you as being on the ground still (which is why Jump ques still hit you). Be sure to release it Befor the second strike or it wont work! and make sure the foe itself is near you to get caught within the freeze area, and also Diaginal upward so that it gets hit by the full force of the upand coming Air spiral. This technique basicly recreatates the optimal condictions for your Air spiral attack. Forcing them up above you in a diaginal Line upaboe you, and reoplacing the Back attack multipler with a Aireal one.

can this be done in pvp and practice mode as well? or does it require a little bit of lag to fully hit 3MP bar?

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

leonid1995 — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:51:53 GMT

REally good guide thats for sure.

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

Suyasi — Mon, 05 May 2008 11:40:04 GMT

Zhon:
Nice guide, I don't play Elesis much but I found some of it pretty useful...
And personally, I'm an Arme fan, and I have to say that I absolutely detest working with an Elesis in a dungeon <.<
It's like.... Hyeeaah~ Fiireee - - *enemy goes flying across the screen* storm? *zero damage*
D:

Aye.. me as well... It's like *throws body back* Dive Bomb! ... ... ... *miss* -enemy is in invulnerable getting up status- [.. Be so glad this isn't friendly fire or I'd be SHOOTING YOU too blasted knight.]

Anyways the guide is really useful, but you have several spelling/grammar errors which aren't really a big deal but your guide is so organized I'd hope you would fix them.

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

Zhon — Mon, 05 May 2008 10:47:04 GMT

Nice guide, I don't play Elesis much but I found some of it pretty useful...

And personally, I'm an Arme fan, and I have to say that I absolutely detest working with an Elesis in a dungeon <.<

It's like.... Hyeeaah~ Fiireee - - *enemy goes flying across the screen* storm? *zero damage*

Re: The Complete Knight PvM Guide

shadowofice — Mon, 05 May 2008 09:05:22 GMT

O.o You know that dash move too! The "advanced dash move." Wow I thought only I knew it. My friends always ask why I can move so quickly with that lol. I use it as a replacement for shadowstep(my fingers can't do that.)

I like the one with air spiral when hitting the monsters during an aerial. Never done that. Nice guide.