Tips & Tricks

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

Aleall — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:16:44 GMT

KsMuffin:

His dashes have to be one of the best. I've compared my stepping skills with Assassin to Elesis 1st and Assassin seems a ton faster, but its a little harder to control.

But remember, learning to step does not make you a good Assassin.

Eh I'd have to disagree. I still find Elesis is faster then Assassin. I step pretty well with assassin and Elesis, but nowhere near perfect. I'd still have to put Elesis at top. But I find assassin is much more flexible with his double dash. So...It's a tough decision.

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

KsMuffin — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:04:49 GMT

His dashes have to be one of the best. I've compared my stepping skills with Assassin to Elesis 1st and Assassin seems a ton faster, but its a little harder to control.

But remember, learning to step does not make you a good Assassin.

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

darkshadouu — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:53:50 GMT

i dont rlly like his dash x.x and i mainly use his 1st bar,his 2nd bar i use when i can corner ppl,or when they tick me off and there in front of my face i kill them ^-^

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

KsMuffin — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:30:49 GMT

Sorry guys.

I'm really late on updating because I've recently had to reformat my computer therefore losing the tutorial information I had prepared. :X

Take not this guide is far from done, I just posted it to see some of the early impressions of my fellow players. I appreciate all the input you guys have given to me.

So.. I need to get to work. x _ x

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

Curia — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:43:13 GMT

I appreaciate the work you done here but...this guide kinda lacks a LOT of info. Not to mention that you didn't say anything about Assasin Control. Yes, you covered the skill range, but you lack info on controlling him. I'll give a few tips I use in PvP and dungeons.

PvP:

V-Grab - Noticed that assasin has a double dash? You can jump, air dash behind the enemy and dash backwards to attack or grab the enemy from behind. I use it for people who abuse forward attacking when I get close. Helps bypass most skills and deliver damage.

Jump attack -> Combo - Noticed that Assasin has an incredibly fast and deadly combo? For only 4 hits, his combo deals incredible damage in PvP and lasts a second. You can jump attack at someone and follow up immediately with a combo attack.

Grab - Do it like it's no tomorrow. Assasin's attacks aren't as bad as Thief's, so you can actually attack normally but grabs are still very important.

Splash Explosion - This attack delivers 2 stun hits before actually attacking. Since it freezes AFTER the opponent is stunned by the hit, you can take advantage of it. When someone is running at you (not counting really bad lag) you can unleash this to quickly deal large damage. It's totally unpredictable. You just fight normally, run off, run back, run off and unleash. 8 out of 10 cases it strikes that way.

Dungeoning:

Assasins Combo - Do NOT deliver all the hits from the combo. When fighting against 1 enemy you can juggle (meaning his light enough for it) you can deliver 3 attacks (3rd launches up) and stop. Quickly start the combo anew to deliver 3 hits AGAIN and launch the enemy. My record so far 21 hits (3+18 Aerial hits) juggling like that. A little practice and you deal insane damage quickly to a helpless target. Abuse this.

Frenzy Sword - This attack sucks, but chains to aerial dash. After the launching hit, jump and air dash attack. Scores 2 aerial extra hits and pushes the target away.

Dash attack - The dash attack is pretty sucky, but it doesn't make the target fall. That means you can dash at the monster, stab with a dash attack and immediately follow with your normal combo. A very easy chain to the 3-hit infnite aerial.

Deadly Sharp - This attack delivers 2 hits if aimed right. Noticed how far the energy shadow reaches when you attack? Aim like if you wanted to strike with the tip of it. That way it scores 2 hits for like 2k damage. Even more if you attack from the back. Use this on groups of enemies for best MP usage.

Splash Explosion - If you are charged up, soloing a dungeon, you can run around the room, hit every mob to make him follow you, gather them in a group and smash out with this or with Deadly Sharp. A really easy way to get 50+hit combo. Not to mention the damage.

These are the tips I can give so far. Assasin is pretty good, better in some dungeons than Thief I'd say but you really need to know HOW to use him. He's not an easy character, tricky, requires some time to master but greatly benefits. Especially the 3-hit aerial combo. You can kill an enemy that's completely hopeless can cannot retailate.

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

IlMaRo — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:47:24 GMT

Nice guide.

Tho i only aerial with Assassin and spam 1st bar T_T.

Best chance to win =P

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

Aleall — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:40:34 GMT

I never see any other assassin PvPers...I've only fought a couple that were any good.

Also, I'd like it if you added some tips...I wouldn't mind learning something new x.x

Lass' 1 and 2 bar are great if you combo them together. If you hit an opponent with the 1 bar, assuming they're actually caught in it and can't dash out, cut the 1 bar short and use the 2 bar midway through. 1 bar traps them, 2 bar does the damage. I've found those work great together. Also I have a semi corner trap thing worked out on the right edge of Serdin. Air dash into them and use the dash attack(double slash), Dash once to the platform above, dash back into the opponent and dash attack him, and repeat until the opponent gets out of it. I can usually get 3-4 hits in(4-8 if you count the two hits) before they can get out of it.

I think I was the only Assassin(PvPer) in the top 20 Lass' (cept for you maybe. Idk I never fought you)in the month of November. So...I haven't learned anything lately D: Teach me please :D

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

musiliu — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:00:16 GMT

what are tips and strategies for assassin in dungeons? what kind of attacks or strategy should assassin use in dungeon? like for 1st job, its only jump attacks..

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

lilneko — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:31:08 GMT

FYI, with the air dash attack, it is completely possible to hit the first hit without landing the second. You basically have to do it late and tip them, makign the econd strike miss. It only delivers a glancing blow and so, you can hit them with a Reverse Special afterwards. I find it very useful.

Note: Reverse Special - Charging for a sepcial during a frame where you can not move. While charging, hold the opposite direction. Unleash the special the split moment you are able to move again and when it is unleashed, it will be performed in the direction you are holding without your character having to turn around first.

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

KsMuffin — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:41:13 GMT

I never claimed I was a good Assassin.

I just use him a lot, and thought I had enough knowledge to make a decent guide. :/

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

SadMoose — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:03:22 GMT

Nice Guide~

now listen to it because you all suck at Assassin

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

Sealse — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:11:34 GMT

Opti, you forgot the most pro dash of all.

Sneaky's keyboard+macro controller.

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

KsMuffin — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:09:42 GMT

Updated some dash techniques. :3

More to come soon!

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

TehAzn — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:23:16 GMT

Katastrophie:
KsMuffin:

Introduction!
Assassin has been known around this community, as a "slow" worthless class that is evidently Lass's "worst" job.
I'm here of course to give you a reality check by saying IT DOESN'T STINK AS MUCH AS EVERYONE SAYS IT DOES.

Have you seen assassin's dash?? thats not slow. you cant decide best jobs by the skills but THE skill of the person playing
and it sorta does stink XP

Go fight Opti 1:1, 'nuff said.

Re: (Updated Jan/15/09) Optimistic's In-depth Guide to Assassin.

Katastrophie — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:20:04 GMT

KsMuffin:

Introduction!
Assassin has been known around this community, as a "slow" worthless class that is evidently Lass's "worst" job.
I'm here of course to give you a reality check by saying IT DOESN'T STINK AS MUCH AS EVERYONE SAYS IT DOES.

Have you seen assassin's dash?? thats not slow. you cant decide best jobs by the skills but THE skill of the person playing

and it sorta does stink XP