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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Tips &amp; Tricks</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/18.aspx</link><description>Share your best Tips &amp;amp; Tricks to the Chaser community.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/492205.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:29:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:492205</guid><dc:creator>Pipinlover</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/492205.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=492205</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;This will help me EXTREMLY well and I can get Dragon knight and X-bow quicker. Thanks! :D&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/360453.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:26:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:360453</guid><dc:creator>Meluken</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/360453.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=360453</wfw:commentRss><description>i say get it then forget it besides your going to be doing missions in Gaikoz and such anyway so while you do other missions you can be completing that one to&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/359972.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:33:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:359972</guid><dc:creator>Pluberus</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/359972.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=359972</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;cocomaster:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I dont get how everyone gets like 10+ frags when I hardly get more then 5 frags per run....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At level 20 I get around 6-10 frags a marsh run - at lvl 26 i get like 2 or 3. Level differnece maybe? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/352893.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:22:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:352893</guid><dc:creator>cocomaster</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/352893.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=352893</wfw:commentRss><description>I dont get how everyone gets like 10+ frags when I hardly get more then 5 frags per run....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/338838.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:49:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:338838</guid><dc:creator>Dartzrip</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/338838.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=338838</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;johanq:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;in my experience, i think if you are more melee-typed you have a better chance of getting frags in gaikoz.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and im not sure about this, but could it be that whoever kills gaikoz gets the frag? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Necro much?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh well, not a horrible necro.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;This could help noobs get 2nd job faster and stop asking &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/338484.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:15:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:338484</guid><dc:creator>johanq</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/338484.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=338484</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;in my experience, i think if you are more melee-typed you have a better chance of getting frags in gaikoz.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and im not sure about this, but could it be that whoever kills gaikoz gets the frag? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/273291.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:52:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:273291</guid><dc:creator>ICYfire99</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/273291.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=273291</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Scyon:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;hmm....i dont kno if this helps, but i hav all 2nd+ classes (cept sent...&amp;ordm;0&amp;ordm;) and here are the average frags-per-gaikoz-full-run counts&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ronan: 10-20, for 1 day it was about 15 per full&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lire: 15+, i never got less than 15&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Elesis: 10+, then again..i did cash her ;&amp;gt;.&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lass: 7-15....i hate sin now anyway...so i guess it was sorta a waste....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Arme: 3...i cashed her classes, all of them...with cash weps...and she&amp;#39;s my lowest still &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i kno the numbers are all over the place, but i think its pure luck...cuz the seals were killer for all...but ryan...he got all feathers in 10 runs &amp;gt;.&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;well, theres my opinion&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;=3 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;super casher ._. hmph YOU &lt;strike&gt;SUCK&lt;/strike&gt; FAIL &lt;a class="linkMediaDetail" href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/fail/Baby_Boy_305_photos/fail.jpg?o=11"&gt;&lt;img alt="Fail Dog" height="99" src="http://th203.photobucket.com/albums/aa139/Baby_Boy_305_photos/th_fail.jpg" width="160" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/273237.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:48:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:273237</guid><dc:creator>Scyon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/273237.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=273237</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;hmm....i dont kno if this helps, but i hav all 2nd+ classes (cept sent...&amp;ordm;0&amp;ordm;) and here are the average frags-per-gaikoz-full-run counts&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ronan: 10-20, for 1 day it was about 15 per full&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lire: 15+, i never got less than 15&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Elesis: 10+, then again..i did cash her ;&amp;gt;.&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lass: 7-15....i hate sin now anyway...so i guess it was sorta a waste....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Arme: 3...i cashed her classes, all of them...with cash weps...and she&amp;#39;s my lowest still &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i kno the numbers are all over the place, but i think its pure luck...cuz the seals were killer for all...but ryan...he got all feathers in 10 runs &amp;gt;.&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;well, theres my opinion&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;=3 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272428.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:04:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:272428</guid><dc:creator>Raiyzor</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272428.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272428</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;wow. U guys make me feel good. I got all 10 feathers in either 20 runs or less. The frags.... guy try this on for size. Hit all the opponents in the room at least 3 times. I got at least 3 frags per room for that. It may be that I&amp;#39;m just lucky but after getting every 2nd job this way.... I believe in it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t know if it&amp;#39;s true but for feather a.k.a. seals, try beating gaikoz 3* in 10 minutes. It&amp;#39;s not proven to help but it works for me. Like I said, I may just be lucky. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272415.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:15:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:272415</guid><dc:creator>Arinoa</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272415.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272415</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Wow Schemer, I feel for you... That must really suck..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyway.. I still find the 2nd job quests too depressing to do GP, I tried Sentinel like that and got too annoyed at the lack of feathers dropping (was doing rushes for feathers). After getting close to 200 frags and still only 4 feathers, I just cashed it. Was seeing a repeat of my Elesis spear mission there (the seals.. grr). &amp;nbsp;I guess I just don&amp;#39;t have any luck with Gaikoz.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ryan on the other hand.. I got 20 trunks in less than 30 runs.. Don&amp;#39;t shoot me now.. Its not my fault! I don&amp;#39;t have control on luck, wish I did.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272263.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:27:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:272263</guid><dc:creator>Schemer</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272263.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272263</wfw:commentRss><description>man i must be the luckyest dude on GC. i get 18-20 frags solo and 21-28 frags 2-3 other people with me. oh, the place i am running is MoO. but i have the worst luck with ryan, 83 runs and only 1!!!!!!!! trunk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272251.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:16:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:272251</guid><dc:creator>ExpiredMiIk</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272251.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272251</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/alternate1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;GrandChaserz:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#6600ff"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;font face="courier new,courier"&gt;Amount of Fragments from Gaikoz with 4 people: 12,10,9,8,14&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i got 17 with 4 people team o-o&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="courier new,courier"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;*cough* *cough*&lt;/font&gt; &lt;font size="7"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;fragment hog&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;*cough* *cough*&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="1"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New" size="1"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Courier New"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Greedy&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Ariel ....&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272157.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:23:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:272157</guid><dc:creator>hellgod2</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/272157.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272157</wfw:commentRss><description>the feathers r hard T_T xD&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/271814.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:54:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:271814</guid><dc:creator>IlMaRo</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/271814.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=271814</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I`m a level 22 Lass .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do 1* gaikoz solo .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I clear it .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And get about 8-10 fragemnts per run .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It takes me about 10 minutes .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But its fun :D &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Besides .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If i rush 3* gaikoz with 4 people i get less than 5 frags per run .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And never get seals soo i guess i will try 3* gaikoz solo .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since i can easely solo 1* :) &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: [GUIDE]Getting 2nd job Fast(er)!</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/270262.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:48:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:270262</guid><dc:creator>TalryuSlash</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/270262.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=270262</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I soloed gaikoz 1 star.... its not bad -- takes around 8-10 minutes for a full run&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;got around almost 12 frags or more per run &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>