Re: Trerro's Bits of Helpful Information!

bahfd — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:31:06 GMT

i didnt get most of it but what i did get i knew but sitll agen holy shrine of knolage and understanding if only the lower levls would read this and sotp triyng to get in at BFB at lelv 15

Re: Trerro's Bits of Helpful Information!

d4rkde4ths — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:15:58 GMT

Wow, all this info is truly amazing thanks for all this.

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SamSmellsPie — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:47:53 GMT

This is like a HOLY SHRINE of knowledge. O.o

Do you know how many questions have been answered by this?

Re: Trerro's Bits of Helpful Information!

payam1 — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:14:50 GMT

thx for the tip

Trerro's Bits of Helpful Information!

Fuikosan — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:28:11 GMT

Trerro has one of the most informative posts I've come across so I figured I'd compile his various posts on different matters. Huge text but it's all worth the read really.

Experience Information: A couple of items that affect EXP!

Being under a dungeon's level lowers the xp for EVERYONE. No one knows the exact numbers, but it appears that you can be up to 5 under with no penalty, and that it's exponential after that. 7 generally isn't an issue, but 10 is a substantial penalty, and by 15... forget it. Because of this, some people kick anyone more than 5 under, most kick people more than 7 under, and just about everyone kicks people more than 10 under.
Being OVER the dungeon's level also gives a penalty, but a much smaller one, and it doesn't appear to affect others. If you're high enough for this to matter, the dungeon you're running gives too little xp to care, so this is generally not an issue.
Dying, use of bonuses, use of natals, etc do not DIRECTLY lower your xp, but they can affect it... see next item on this list.
Your rating at the end of a level gives bonus xp, so anything that causes you to not get perfect means you'll get less xp than if you got perfect. Your "level score" is your power score + your control score - your "hits taken" score. 90 or higher is perfect. Power and control are explained if you hover over them, but hits taken are not. Dying definitely raises this, and bonusing/nataling seems to raise it further. Getting hit a lot also affects it - this is especially noticable in Partusay, where people taking drowning damage will almost always crank this to 100.
XP bonuses add, but do not stack. If you have 3 sources of +100% exp, they will all apply to give you 400% but they will not double you 3 times and give you 800%. Read anything that says "double" as "+100%".
Modded monsters (super armor, improved power, etc) appear to be worth above normal xp, and since these are chosen randomly, the base xp value of a dungeon is slightly variable.
Each room you clear in a dungeon gives bonus xp at the end.
Clearing ALL rooms gives an additional bonus.
In some dungeons, you pick a path, and all other paths are locked once you do. In these dungeons, doing all rooms for that path is considered to be a full clear of the dungeon, and will award the bonus. Currently, this applies to Lower Kastulle, Battle for Bermesiah, and Xenia Border.
If you do something incredibly stupid (or several slightly less stupid things) and get a red card, you get a temporary enormous penalty to xp gain, I think 75%. Your stats are also halved.
Anmon scouts in Fire Temple give the inverse of what they should. (If you should get 300 xp, you get -300.) This makes fire temple give almost no xp. I noticed the last time I ran there I actually got some xp, so the last patch MAY have fixed this bug.
When you're dead and flickering on the ground, you're still earning xp.
Once the "press C to resurrect" box pops up, you are NOT earning xp for kills, although you will still get all xp you've earned up to that point, all bonus xp at the end, and if you do revive, all xp from that point forward.
Quest xp is not affected by ANYTHING. You will always get the listed amount, no more, no less.
Pet xp is fixed for each run, regardless of level. A fully fed pet (at least 5000/6000 food points) earns 3 times his level in xp each round, unless he's level 0, in which case he earns 1 point. This is reduced if he's below 5000, down to 0 if he's at 0.
The pet +xp item does NOT give 150% more as the description says. It actually gives only 50%. I'm guessing this is because it gives 150% based on the 1x level minimal feeding rate, though this is still highly misleading.
Because pet xp is fixed per run, a xenia border run, a trial forest run, and a pvp match will all give EXACTLY the same amount of xp. Trial forest is the fastest pet leveling zone... if you can stand grinding that over and over.

Attendance Information: What's and How

How does it work? (Look up the Attendance Book in-game)

Every day you don't play gives you an X. Every day you play < 70 minutes gives you a triangle. Every day you play at least 70 minutes gives you a circle and allows you to "stamp" that day. Stamping a day gives you 100 power up points.
Perfect attendance for the week will light up the week button, giving you a bonus 100 points. You do NOT need to circle all days... as long as you log in for at least 1 second each day of the week, you'll get the bonus.
The 10/10 button is extremely misleading, as it does not require 10 of ANYTHING. This is like the week bonus, but it's for the entire month. This allows you to claim an accessory for all of the next month on all characters. The stats are nothing special (around +2% to all if you're high level), but if you see you're close, you may as well go for it.

What are Power up Points?

P points are spent in the P tab of the shop. NTreev has disabled or made cash nearly everything that should be in there, so only the slime pet can purchased with P (instead of 4 or 5 choices), some level 10 and under gear (worthless), and bonus lives. So... get a slime pet with your 500 starting points, and after that, P points pretty much do nothing but grant bonus lives.
You'll find a similar problem with crystals later on, although that one is even worse, as you'll have NOTHING to spend them on..

How do I get the monthly award?

The symbol for the weekly bonus is exactly the same as the one on the 10/10 button, which makes it even more confusing, as it implies getting 10 of the weekly medals will light it up, which it will not.
I've gotten more than 10 weekly awards, but that did nothing. Last month I played every day. The second you stamp the final day, a giant red "PERFECT ATTENDANCE!" gets stamped over the entire calendar page, and the 10/10 button lights up. When you click it, it asks you to pick which accessory you'd like for your reward.

More to come! :D

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