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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Grand Chase General Discussion</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/10.aspx</link><description>Discuss anything and everything related to North American Grand Chase here!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572874.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:51:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572874</guid><dc:creator>GMLoki</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572874.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572874</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#4169e1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#4169e1;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Exclusion from the rankings in this sweep is not necessarily a judgment of actions taken during this month, but this investigation has turned up a number of swapping cases that had previously gone unpunished.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572845.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:35:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572845</guid><dc:creator>LetsxPanic</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572845.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572845</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;small&gt;I checked the Daily for today (so I guess that means last night&amp;#39;s rank) and an Amy got 500 wins. I lol&amp;#39;d thinking maybe they were showing me the weekly. &lt;/small&gt;&lt;small&gt;But it was Daily. I looked at weekly and a few people got 500, but thats weekly. I think its lols that someone would take the time to do 500 wins in one day. Rofl. xD&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;small&gt;Ranking means nothing anyways. I shot for the Rank 1 last month on Amy, by making a new alt and pvping like crazy. I managed to get rank 2 at level 40 with 90% win average and what did I get for it? &amp;quot;Swapper.&amp;quot; Its sad that rather than get appricated or respected for actually putting a lot of effort into something, you get mocked for it. YuYevon even came to find me late one night just to call me a swapper. It felt great. Especially concidering he got almsot double the wins I got.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;small&gt;Its over rated. I couldn&amp;#39;t even use her.. so I wouldn&amp;#39;t get upset about it. Not worth the trouble.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572712.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:13:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572712</guid><dc:creator>Aleall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572712.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572712</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;KittenLina:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep in mind, Kingzie, the&amp;nbsp;third placer for Lass for first place for Ronan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s pretty much inhumanly poosible to do that for TWO characters.&amp;nbsp; This system of &amp;quot;fairness&amp;quot; is still incredibly flawed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As it stands I&amp;#39;m sure they just look at win:loss ratio and decide what&amp;#39;s fair.&amp;nbsp; Which is funny because a swapper can easily win 4,000 times and then just give up 1,000 more.&amp;nbsp; That doesn&amp;#39;t make it legit, just masks it better.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;No...it&amp;#39;s not..even close to impossible. Yuun earned 1st place with 1k games. To make 2 first places with the same ratio, you&amp;#39;d need to play 2k games. Since Achi got a 1st and a 3rd, that means probably 1800 or so games. Easily doable. Achi is good enough to get the wins necessary, he just also devoted the time to it. It&amp;#39;s more then possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And like Yuun said....BlueJays.....&amp;gt;.&amp;lt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572612.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:58:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572612</guid><dc:creator>Yuungavery</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572612.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572612</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;KittenLina:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep in mind, Kingzie, the&amp;nbsp;third placer for Lass for first place for Ronan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;It&amp;#39;s pretty much inhumanly poosible to do that for TWO characters.&amp;nbsp; This system of &amp;quot;fairness&amp;quot; is still incredibly flawed.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As it stands I&amp;#39;m sure they just look at win:loss ratio and decide what&amp;#39;s fair.&amp;nbsp; Which is funny because a swapper can easily win 4,000 times and then just give up 1,000 more.&amp;nbsp; That doesn&amp;#39;t make it legit, just masks it better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Mari, why does your posting style&amp;nbsp;annoy the hell out of me?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It just... does &lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/emoticons/py14.gif" alt="omg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#800000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Speak to Bluejays about that who got it for Elesis, Lire and Arme in the same month.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#800000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Its called tag matches for designating one week for 1 characater and another week for a different one.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572409.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:23:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572409</guid><dc:creator>kingzie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572409.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572409</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i agree with you smexy but it was the simple fact that i was closest to the 1-3 chart and still got skiped but oh well i prefer achi and jue to have it rather than some one who does swap so i guess ill be ok with it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572381.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:03:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572381</guid><dc:creator>SmEXygAL</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572381.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572381</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;kingzie, even if you did work really hard this month trying to get rank 1-3, there may be other people who worked even harder, possibly, that like plays 23 hrs per day and has no life playing this game day and night, but I&amp;#39;m not talking about swappers, so good luck next time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572347.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:40:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572347</guid><dc:creator>xXEgoXx</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572347.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572347</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:lime;font-size:small;"&gt;Poor kingie!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:lime;font-size:small;"&gt;i still think you deserve it, i wish i could give you my arme armor, i hate it, sooooo ugly!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572333.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:20:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572333</guid><dc:creator>LuzCeleste</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572333.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572333</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve been with you a lot this week and I know you&amp;#39;d never swap. I&amp;#39;m sorry you didn&amp;#39;t get your much deserved armor =/. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572309.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:45:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572309</guid><dc:creator>Mrgrillz</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572309.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572309</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Shout of support!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572280.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:50:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572280</guid><dc:creator>Marizytha</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572280.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572280</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;KittenLina:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:line-through;"&gt;Keep in mind, Kingzie, the&amp;nbsp;third placer for Lass for first place for Ronan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:line-through;"&gt;It&amp;#39;s pretty much inhumanly poosible to do that for TWO characters.&amp;nbsp; This system of &amp;quot;fairness&amp;quot; is still incredibly flawed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:line-through;"&gt;As it stands I&amp;#39;m sure they just look at win:loss ratio and decide what&amp;#39;s fair.&amp;nbsp; Which is funny because a swapper can easily win 4,000 times and then just give up 1,000 more.&amp;nbsp; That doesn&amp;#39;t make it legit, just masks it better.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;And Mari, why does your posting style&amp;nbsp;annoy the hell out of me?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It just... does&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/emoticons/py14.gif" alt="omg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;What you mean with that :S? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572275.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:39:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572275</guid><dc:creator>KittenLina</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572275.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572275</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Keep in mind, Kingzie, the&amp;nbsp;third placer for Lass for first place for Ronan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s pretty much inhumanly poosible to do that for TWO characters.&amp;nbsp; This system of &amp;quot;fairness&amp;quot; is still incredibly flawed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As it stands I&amp;#39;m sure they just look at win:loss ratio and decide what&amp;#39;s fair.&amp;nbsp; Which is funny because a swapper can easily win 4,000 times and then just give up 1,000 more.&amp;nbsp; That doesn&amp;#39;t make it legit, just masks it better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Mari, why does your posting style&amp;nbsp;annoy the hell out of me?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;It just... does &lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/emoticons/py14.gif" alt="omg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572272.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:28:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572272</guid><dc:creator>Marizytha</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572272.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572272</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;GKeyblade:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;good luck next time&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe he gonna get it next month too, But he deserves the one of this month.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If kingzie read what you posted GBK xD He&amp;#39;ll say &amp;#39;&amp;#39; I won&amp;#39;t need luck &amp;#39;&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GIVE kingzie&amp;#39;s Month 1!!!!!! &amp;gt;_&amp;lt; So unfair!&amp;lt;/3&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572266.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:11:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572266</guid><dc:creator>GKeyblade</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572266.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572266</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;good luck next time&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>not fair (kingzie)</title><link>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572245.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:22:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">645dad86-7137-4011-be41-73286d58a84d:572245</guid><dc:creator>kingzie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/572245.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=10&amp;PostID=572245</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;i really was going to take defeat after seeing this months scores for lass, losing 1-3 place because of insane scores. lowering my attitude towards the whole concept of getting monthly. Well i accepted that until i got cyber smaked again this time to find out that instead of the swappers getting it, the people lower than myself getting the armor now??? (no offense jue because i personaly know you earnt it) but for all that know kingzie And Turbin, personaly you saw are rooms and how much we CLEARLY did not swap, for those who joined us and saw are progress. honestly i really dont understand why the gm&amp;#39;s missed me out maybe because they think my score couldnt be met ligitly (wins972 loses297)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;for those wondering my rank it was 5th place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;any ways i really had to let that out. 0.0&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if you know me ingame give me a shout of support please.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and i prefer that no negativity come from this as it is not negative towards anyone. (appart from swappers)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>