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Last post 08-28-2008, 10:03 PM by KuroNekoKun. 79 replies.
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  •  08-28-2008, 11:50 AM 155421

    Well... I'm out

    I gave NTreev quite a few chances. Even as they got greedier and greedier, I stuck with the game, despite so much missing, and nothing unique being added to make up for it (sorry, but a gambling system isn't adding something, it's taking more away.) Even as I was pretty sure the gambling system would be horrible, I even waited until they released it to give them one last chance.

    Now we have Gacha, and from reading the threads of people who tried it, it costs ~$150 for a pet. That is absolutely beyond anything that even remotely resembles sanity, and I won't even touch the game now. For those who don't think that's ridiculous, because it's "only a pet" and you can buy the panda for 5 bucks instead, all I can say is wait until they make the high level town, and normal cash players are blown away by those willing to clear all the towns for $150 EACH to get the gear that gives as much of an advantage to gamblers over cashers as cash gear gives cashers over regular players.

    So... I'm switching to Grand Chase SEA. Having done it, I have a few things to say:
    1. NOTHING is cash or gamble that shouldn't be.
    2. Crystal is useful, with a much larger list of stuff to buy with it. Yes, the map pieces actually work correctly in SEA.
    3. There are 4 P pets, not 1, and from what I've heard, there's other ways to get them too. They also ran an event where you had a chance to permanently win a cash pet, though of course, that sort of thing is rare.
    4. Yay for Champion Mode. :)
    5. The xp rate seems identical to NAGC, possibly even slightly faster, it's hard to tell.
    6. Skill scrolls are available in 100, 300, and 500 charge options, instead of only the 500. Sure, you're always going to grab the 500 on firestorm, but for rarely used cash skills like Athena's Sword, the option to buy less is quite nice.
    6. You DO get gp slower, but it's hardly an issue considering how much more gp NAGCers get than they can ever use, and more importantly, the fact that crystal actually does something in SEA.
    7. It's nice to not be forced to pvp. As in our version, the game stops at Xenia Border currently... but the level cap is 50, not 60. Xenia Border 3 star is a level 50 dungeon. This is called not putting the cap past the content, something Ntreev USED to say was their plan too.
    8. A few of their cash prices are a bit higher, but far more things are lower than higher, and nothing is cash that shouldn't be.
    9. You buy cash items in SEA, not coins that MAY give you items. There is no gambling. You buy an item, or you don't - no handing them money and hoping they give you your item.
    10. A lot of people don't realize it, but Singapore (where SEA is based) is an English speaking country. This means in most games, there's no language barrier. (This is the main reason I chose SEA over the many other similar versions of the game.)
    11. The community varies, but I'd say overall is better than NAGC. That doesn't mean they don't have the same community problems we do, but there seems to be less of it.
    12. They don't have Ronan yet. As far as I can tell, this is the ONLY thing NAGC has which SEA does not, and of course, he's coming soon anyway, once SEA gets the normal dungeon to unlock him from. This also means no storyline where Ronan is in despite not fitting, no level 10s begging for help unlocking him, and yes, no giant gaps of 30 levels with no gp gear.
    13. That whole random denial of gp gear, like 20 levels with no crossbows, or (for a while) 30 levels with no Lass gear at all? Yeah, they don't do that. Also, when they give stuff like warrior weapons in event, they don't restrict it to 1st job only.
    14. Quicker job changes - they do 5,20,30 rather than 20,30,40. This means you get your jobs earlier. Don't worry about not having stuff to do at high level - that's what stuff like Champion Mode is for. :) 5,20,30 is the GC standard, which most versions (possibly even all but ours) use.

    So, congrats NTreev, you lost a paying customer - I will be buying cash in SEA the second they take normal credit cards. In the unlikely event you decide to stop the greed, and maybe market this as a social game again, instead of a game where 1% of your players buy hundreds of dollars of coins, and most of the rest quit, I will return, and even as a cash player. Otherwise, I will not be playing your version of GC again.

    Of course, it's Ntreev's decision how to run their company and who to choose for a target customer base. It's my decision where to spend my money, however, and this version of the game most definitely is not it.

    For anyone else who wants to play SEA but can't get it to work, PM me and I'll send you instructions. The main issue you'll encounter is that their sign up button is currently broken (but you can do it from somewhere else.)

    Thanks to everyone here I've had fun with. There ARE some great people in this community, although yeah, most of them have already quit. Thanks for a fun experience. GMs, thanks for genuinely caring about the community, and sorry you have to work under the management you're stuck under.

    I'll pop in from time to time to see what this version of the game is doing, but I uninstalled this version of the game, and will not be logging in.



    In-game name: Mwrip
    Characters:
    Arme 46 (waiting for the quest cap to increase)
    Lire 46 (also waiting for the quest cap to increase)
    Ronan 28
    Elesis 40
    Lass 21
  •  08-28-2008, 11:52 AM 155423 in reply to 155421

    Re: Well... I'm out

    grats, # 15
    Elesis~♥



  •  08-28-2008, 12:22 PM 155442 in reply to 155423

    Re: Well... I'm out

    Canada has region block from SEA which is fail D= I wanted to hear Arme's English voice ._.

     


    Ign NA and TW-Catastrophy
  •  08-28-2008, 12:31 PM 155451 in reply to 155442

    Re: Well... I'm out

    ...Not another one.

    I was already losing the will to play. Now the people who I respected most ditched. >:/



    Avalon~
  •  08-28-2008, 12:33 PM 155453 in reply to 155451

    Re: Well... I'm out

    .. I've technically quit myself, I rarely get on... just get on for attendance.. I mostly play TWGC now. I'm just waiting to see how bad gacha will end up.

    I've had it. I am officially GONE.
  •  08-28-2008, 12:34 PM 155454 in reply to 155453

    Re: Well... I'm out

    At least you can't quit the forums. :D

    Avalon~
  •  08-28-2008, 12:39 PM 155456 in reply to 155454

    Re: Well... I'm out

    Mag you haven't been on tw at all. Did you make me add you for no reason?...T.T

  •  08-28-2008, 12:51 PM 155471 in reply to 155456

    Re: Well... I'm out

    No. I've been losing the will to play Grand Chase.

    I wasted twenty dollars and the GM's won't help me out.



    Avalon~
  •  08-28-2008, 12:52 PM 155473 in reply to 155471

    Re: Well... I'm out

    xMagx:

    No. I've been losing the will to play Grand Chase.

    I wasted twenty dollars and the GM's won't help me out.

    Oh.
  •  08-28-2008, 12:55 PM 155478 in reply to 155473

    Re: Well... I'm out

    I'll probably get on later. I'll be gone from 5-8 EST though.

    :P



    Avalon~
  •  08-28-2008, 1:19 PM 155524 in reply to 155478

    Re: Well... I'm out

    ._. I'm not from trickster so I was thinking, "What's so bad about Gacha?" How bad can it really be? Until I played it <.<...Unless the event coins had less success or something because they were free, it seems useless. 1 pants 1 bow that i cannot use because it's level 20. And a crapload of MP pots. I think if they are going to give MP pots or HP pots, they should at least give like super pots or something like mp/hp in one so it doesn't make you feel like a complete loser afterwards =/...

     

    I thought after this, "Well most people are going to completely ignore the Gacha system and I guess they'll take it out." Wrong. >.> There's stupid people spending on it, and people leaving -_- I thought Gacha might just disappear pleasantly but no =/ I also kinda quit. I used to log on every day for about 7+ hours, depending on how pvp motivated I was. Now I only log on to get my attendance and maybe say hello to a few friends. My account has about 185$ charged on it. I am a frequent cash buyer. I would of bought ninko if it was cash -_-...Almost every game I play, if theres a cash shop. I almost always buy at least 2-3 things or an armor/weapon from it (Sorry it's a bad habit but a good thing for the companies). So I'm an easy catch, as you'd say. If a place has a cool cash shop, I buy from it, mostly disregarding the prices whatsoever. That being said, if I'm that type of player, and they made me not want to buy from their cash shop, that's pretty bad =/ I will no longer be cashing either. I spent the last of it and don't plan on getting anymore. I also moved to TWGC. Much funner <.< Sorry Ntreev. I feel like a traitor =/ I'll still play and stuff but Gacha sucks hardcore -_-



    <3 Jeko
  •  08-28-2008, 1:21 PM 155529 in reply to 155524

    Re: Well... I'm out

    Actually...i dont see whats wrong with Gacha ._.

    I mean..its there..but you dont HAVE to use it o_o

    Of Course I read nothing of the above though T_T


  •  08-28-2008, 1:23 PM 155531 in reply to 155529

    Re: Well... I'm out

    See if everyone was smart and ignored it, Gacha would go away.

    But theres still idiots spending on it -_-



    <3 Jeko
  •  08-28-2008, 1:26 PM 155537 in reply to 155421

    Re: Well... I'm out

    Very understandable reasons for leaving. The only one I don't really care for is the Level Cap here being 60, even though we only have Xenia Border. It doesn't really matter what the level cap is IMO; just gives higher level players a reason to keep going after 50 instead of stopping with a Job they mght really like.

    I wish Ninko wasn't Gacha though. :( That's such weaksauce...


    Bouken Desho Desho!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zBXoMYCgXc
  •  08-28-2008, 1:59 PM 155583 in reply to 155537

    Re: Well... I'm out

    You know, I made a thread like this awhile ago Trerro and they moved it to the Off-topic section.  Probably going to move yours too.  I also moved to TWGC the language barrier doesn't bother me and besides there are atleast 20 players from NAGC there that I can group with and talk with.  Swapping/FKing for medals over there isn't frowned upon (neither is it frowned upon in SEA) so yeah it's fun.


    -Gasp!- You hate bunnies?!
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