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*Occur.

FireShield pissed me off bigtime in 1v1s. But I got over it.

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All I can say is if it reflects every bit of damage then its a glitch.

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Darkboy132:

Occour*

Ronan had only two nerfs: Infinite Sword & Holy Inferno.
They're still pretty weak though, and no one uses DK anymore because of this.

No one uses dragon knight because over powered aegis knight is a lot better.

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The ideas of nerfing come to mind:

-Prevent HP/MP Regen (which takes too much coding)
-Reduce all reflected damage to 5-10%
-Reduce all reflected damage to 50% but you take in 30% damage from being hit as well (which is too strange)
-Eliminate the reflection part (which totally ruins the whole point of the skill)
-Or Eliminate the whole thing and only have Blood Pest for a 1st ST Cash.

I'd pick my choices with the reduction part.

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Darkboy132:

The ideas of nerfing come to mind:

-Prevent HP/MP Regen (which takes too much coding)
-Reduce all reflected damage to 5-10%
-Reduce all reflected damage to 50% but you take in 30% damage from being hit as well (which is too strange)
-Eliminate the reflection part (which totally ruins the whole point of the skill)
-Or Eliminate the whole thing and only have Blood Pest for a 1st ST Cash.

I'd pick my choices with the reduction part.

Sure, as soon as aegis knight gets what he deserves.

Until you stop denieing it and being hypocritical, all your nerf ideas should be ignored.

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what's so bad about AK? In PvP, his one and two bar white skills are pretty worthless, and his Black skills are all useful, but not what I'd call overpowered. I really don't get what's so "broken" about him that you feel it justifies Arme being OP even more.

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Actually, 1st Fire Bolt! is pretty harmful if it hits, but its too easy to avoid.
They think hes OPed because of his "Shield". However, it was intended because it makes SENSE! I wouldn't classify it as "OPed" or "too powerful", because the "Shield" can't kill more than one person at once now can it?

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Darkboy132:

Actually, 1st Fire Bolt! is pretty harmful if it hits, but its too easy to avoid.
They think hes OPed because of his "Shield". However, it was intended because it makes SENSE! I wouldn't classify it as "OPed" or "too powerful", because the "Shield" can't kill more than one person at once now can it?

I could care less about his shield.

How about divine slash, his range of areal attacks.

He has the range of spear but his lasts.

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people really need to stop using other classes or skills as an excuse.

AK is overpowered? make your own thread.

Lire is overpowered? do the same.

we're talking about Arme here. not Lire, not Ronan, Arme.

If you can't come up with a reasonable arguement defending Arme(some actual proof. screenies and etc.), without bringing up other characters or skills, then don't bother posting. oo; make your own nerf thread instead of derailing this one.

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people really need to stop using other classes or skills as an excuse.

AK is overpowered? make your own thread.

Lire is overpowered? do the same.

we're talking about Arme here. not Lire, not Ronan, Arme.

If you can't come up with a reasonable arguement defending Arme(some actual proof. screenies and etc.), without bringing up other characters or skills, then don't bother posting. oo; make your own nerf thread instead of derailing this one.

I did that because I found Darkboy's statements hypocritical.

I made my reasons before, so be quite.

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people really need to stop using other classes or skills as an excuse.

AK is overpowered? make your own thread.

Lire is overpowered? do the same.

we're talking about Arme here. not Lire, not Ronan, Arme.

If you can't come up with a reasonable arguement defending Arme(some actual proof. screenies and etc.), without bringing up other characters or skills, then don't bother posting. oo; make your own nerf thread instead of derailing this one.

I did that because I found Darkboy's statements hypocritical.

I made my reasons before, so be quite.

 

the word you're looking for is quiet.

and you have reasons, but no proof. I bolded out the part of my quote that actually matters in these discussions.

and as for darkboy...well, he's darkboy. obviously, there's no changing that. (also, who isn't a hypocrite? this is grand chase after all.)

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Divine slash... too much range? Ahahahaha. I'm sorry, but that is truly funny to me.

You play an ARME. All of your skills have a huge area, and hit all of it INSTANTLY. If you see the AK casting Divine Slash, or well, ANY of his skills for that matter, all you have to do is move. Even if he's started swinging there's a slight chance before and after the freeze frames to get out of it. Arme's skills, such as stone curse, all hit in one swift motion and there's no escaping it unless you're not in range to start with.

Nobody playing as an Arme with her meteors, blizzards, and deep impacts has room to complain that anybody else's skills hit too big an area.

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 (also, who isn't a hypocrite? this is grand chase after all.)

He has a point. o_o

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well zamte has a point

 

in elven forest

if Deep impact is cast the only real way to avoid it is to use a skill.... i mean c'mon thats pretty devastating especially on survival. but its still a cool skill

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kenshin90991:

well zamte has a point

 

in elven forest

if Deep impact is cast the only real way to avoid it is to use a skill.... i mean c'mon thats pretty devastating especially on survival. but its still a cool skill

You forgot that all the other maps except Serdin, Gorge, ToF, (and possibly Babel) have infinite Deep Impact Range.
And thats less than 25% of all the maps we have! Its crazy!

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good point dark

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