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ICYfire99 Posted: 08-22-2008 5:54 PM

Hail knights! I know that i have written that other post not too soon ago. I'm too bored.

Elesis: warrior --> spearman --> sword master --> Savior

Pros:

Have cheap 3rd skills. Can reflect arrows. Can be a great Hunter. Gets too much power. Can neutralize skills with a cheap 1st skill. Berserk against archers. Shadow step

Cons:

Bad if being hunted. Loses power at 2nd job (except for 3rd skill).  

Dungeon -

Elesis aren't very much made for dungeon except for the 3rd skill. My advice : NEVER use Mega Slash in dungeons. Use sonic wave if there are multiple enemies in front of you. Use Air Spiral when there are a lot of strong monsters. Air spiral can be used in the sonic wave condition and vice versa ,too but this is how i would do it. My guide, my suggestions. 

PvP -

Your turn to shine Elesis. Mega Slash is a MUST in PvP. But only use it to counter a skill. That's the must. You can use it if the enemy is a runner and you want to trap him when you get the chance. Use Sonic wave if you're hunted and they come after you. But since it takes a while to charge, only use it if they're far away. If you have enough MP, i recommend Air Spiral in this situation instead. If you think you might miss and don't want to risk, stick with Sonic Wave.

Arme: Mage --> Alchemist --> Warlock --> Battle Mage

Pros:

Can spam a lot to win PvP. Has a lot of combos. Cheap cash skills. Meteor is too effective. Can heal. Recharges MP by self.

Cons:

People mostly hate arme. has low defense. Heal is too long.

Dungeon : If you're in dungeon with Arme, stick with meteor. Stone curse may be effective in PvP but not in dungeon. It'll hold everything in place but monsters with "Super Armor" and Bosses. Lightning bolt if there is a lot of enemies in a line. Other than that , use saber  and meteor ONLY.

PvP : When I play Arme, i usually find a room where i can be on the same team as the leader or host a room. This way, you can spam as much as you want and still not get kicked. Other than that, if you don't want to spam and have people hate you use stone curse if they get near you, lightning bolt if you dont want to save mp for meteor. DONT USE CURE EVER IN PVP! unless you're an alchemist.

Lire : Archer --> Crossbowman --> Arch Ranger --> Nova

Pros : 

Can spam a lot. Has a wide attack range obviously. Can  kill or weaken easily.

Cons :

A lot of ppl say NO LIRE. Most people have arrow defense.

Dungeon: I don't give big shot a big chance in dungeons. They can weaken a bit but other than that it's pretty useless. It's good if you have low HP and you want to stay back. And if there isn't any monsters you can see from the corner then use big shot to find out where some monsters are. Arrow Rain is good if you get under the enemy. Other than that, don't use it unless you have a lot of surrounding enemies. Shooting star is just a good attack to hit multiple enemies but it isn't very strong. If a lot of monsters are bunched up, use it there. If there is one strong enemy, use it up close to them. If they are all spread out, get in the center of the map or the center of the monster range to use it.

PvP: Sad , sad day for Lire. No one really likes battling Lire unless it's Stronger Lire vs Lire. Who do you think the host would be? Yeah.. Obviously. But if you can't find a room, then make one! And include everyone because you can't say No Lire if you are a Lire. If you do find a room , GOOD FOR YOU! Anyways.... Big shot is for close-up enemies or to hit a wide range far away, arrow rain if the enemies are spread out around you or someone is above you, shooting star nearly anywhere as long there is a good range.

 CASH SKILL GUIDE :

WAIT ! STOP! LOOK AT THIS! Before you go running off buying some cool looking skill with your hard earned ( or hard begged) money. Here is the cash skills and best effects blah blah blah.

Elesis - Circle Blade - 500 cash - strikes twice/once with your sword and then make a ring of fire around you - 2/5 stars

Elesis - Magnum Break - 600 cash - strikes a few times and then creates a multiple hitting aura around your blade - 4/5 stars

Elesis - Storm Blade - 700 cash - spin around with your sword a few times and then smash your sword to the ground to create a large attack - 4/5 stars 

Arme - Dark Cloud - 500 cash - shoots out 3 flies straight that continues to attack everytime you press Z - 1/5 (they heal as much as you hurt at the same time)

Arme - Home of Darkness - 600 cash - shoot a skull forward that switches the left and right buttons - 2/5

Arme - MY FAVORITE!! Fire Storm - 700 cash (it seems like a 800 cash skill)- make a 3 large pillars of fire that then explodes into tiny but powerful rocks - 5/5

Arme - Shining Arrow - 500 cash - shoot a everlasting arrow straight that dissapears after it hits - 3/5

Arme - Athena's Sword - 600 cash - boosts up attack power - 2/5

Arme - Boost Heal - 700 cash - increases HP recovery rate - 4/5

Lire - Attack Swing - 500 cash - use your bow as a tiny tornado to hit in front of you - 2/5

Lire - (by the way, if you purchase 2 1-bar skills, you can only pick one)Eagle Sight - 500 cash - increase sight - 3/5

Lire - Flame Arrow - 700 cash - shoot 5 arrows (as in big shot) that then EXPLODES right before your eyes - 5/5

 So find anything useful for your character ?

My opinion : Elesis- get magnum break because it is effective in dungeon and in pvp because it can trap the enemy and finish them 

Arme - get fire storm!!! effective in both too except more effective. Don't use in dungeon except against boss.

Lire - Attack Swing and/or  Flame Arrow  because you can have a 3 - bar combo.

BIG SHOT , BIG SHOT , ATTACK SWING (with a quick finger) because big shot doesn't kill but it weakens ( in PvP) and a 1 bar skill that finishes is attack swing. In dungeon, stick with 3 big shots because it can kill in dungeon and it's good if you have 3-bars (regardless of my previous comments). 

And a next 3 - bar move you can do is Flame arrow which is probably the KO move of all times. you can aim in a large area as in big shot and it explodes. Then shoot arrows to their deaths!

THX FOR READING MY GUIDE!            

Ronan and Lass unlocking/skill/tricks guide coming soon!!!

Spearman/Alchemist guide coming soon!!!

Xbow/Dragon Knight guide coming soon!!!

Arch Ranger guide coming soon!! (coming in order from TOP to BOTTOM!!!!!

I'll edit my posts soon.  

POSITIVE COMMENTS ONLY!  

 

Edit 1 : Credits ~ Blizzard49

 

 

 

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Nice guide~! Btw Elesis 4th is called Savior it uses dual swords

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You have no tricks and a very shallow understand of each class
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At least credit my for my big shot, big shot, attack swing combo. I'm like the only lire who uses it ^^ So you credit me for the alchemist thing that you didnt understand and you dont credit my for my own combo? Wicked o.o

 

http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/145438.aspx

 

You can add that if you want someone asked for the pros and cons so I just told them about the pros and cons of Lire Elesis and Arme ^^

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It was a pretty nice guide, but I disagree with some cash skills.

First of all, circle blade and attack swing are my favorite cash moves. Why? You can make effective combos with them. (Like the big shot big shot attack swing mentioned before) Circle blade, followed by sonic wave is deadly, with a big chance to hit. Attack swing swings your opponent into the air, so you have the oppertunity to walk under your enemy and using arrow rain for great damage.

Call of darkness is usefull in some situations. If you're getting chased by someone in PVP, a call of darkness will confuse your enemy so you can grab or whatever him and run to a save spot.
. Also, call of darkness deals some nice damage in dungeons, (It did about 700 dmg in partusay, lv 31 arme xd)

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blizzard49:

At least credit my for my big shot, big shot, attack swing combo. I'm like the only lire who uses it ^^

 lies

 

So you credit me for the alchemist thing that you didnt understand and you dont credit my for my own combo? Wicked o.o

 

http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/145438.aspx

 

You can add that if you want someone asked for the pros and cons so I just told them about the pros and cons of Lire Elesis and Arme ^^

 

i give this a 4 o.o

 

nothing for elesis

 u barely understand what each job is capable of

attack swing arrow rain rape

attack swing jump z grab rapes more

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ICYfire99:

Hail knights! I know that i have written that other post not too soon ago. I'm too bored.

Elesis: warrior --> spearman --> sword master --> ??

Pros:

Have cheap 3rd skills. Can reflect arrows. Can be a great Hunter. Gets too much power. Can neutralize skills with a cheap 1st skill. 

Cons:

Bad if being hunted. ~~ Can't think of anything else

 The circle of the jobs :        Elesis owns Lire owns Arme owns Elesis. I think . Or it's Elesis owns Arme owns Lire owns Elesis. Lass and Ronan fit in to  anywhere depending on his skill, experience, and if it's cash or not. 

 LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOl do u even pvp?

Back to Elesis -

Dungeon -

Elesis aren't very much made for dungeon except for the 3rd skill. My advice : NEVER use Mega Slash in dungeons. Use sonic wave if there are multiple enemies in front of you. Use Air Spiral when there are a lot of strong monsters. Air spiral can be used in the sonic wave condition and vice versa ,too but this is how i would do it. My guide, my suggestions. 

PvP -

Your turn to shine Elesis. Mega Slash is a MUST in PvP. But only use it to counter a skill. That's the must. You can use it if the enemy is a runner and you want to trap him when you get the chance. Use Sonic wave if you're hunted and they come after you. But since it takes a while to charge, only use it if they're far away. If you have enough MP, i recommend Air Spiral in this situation instead. If you think you might miss and don't want to risk, stick with Sonic Wave.

Arme: Mage --> Alchemist --> Warlock --> Battle Mage

Pros:

Can spam a lot to win PvP. Has a lot of combos. Cheap cash skills. Meteor is too effective. Can heal. Recharges MP by self.

Cons:

People mostly hate arme. has low defense. Heal is too long.

Dungeon : If you're in dungeon with Arme, stick with meteor. Stone curse may be effective in PvP but not in dungeon. It'll hold everything in place but monsters with "Super Armor" and Bosses. Lightning bolt if there is a lot of enemies in a line. Other than that , use saber  and meteor ONLY.

PvP : When I play Arme, i usually find a room where i can be on the same team as the leader or host a room. This way, you can spam as much as you want and still not get kicked. Other than that, if you don't want to spam and have people hate you use stone curse if they get near you, lightning bolt if you dont want to save mp for meteor. DONT USE CURE EVER IN PVP! unless you're an alchemist.

Lire : Archer --> Crossbowman --> Arch Ranger --> Nova

Pros : 

Can spam a lot. Has a wide attack range obviously. Can  kill or weaken easily.

Cons :

A lot of ppl say NO LIRE. Most people have arrow defense.

Dungeon: I don't give big shot a big chance in dungeons. They can weaken a bit but other than that it's pretty useless. It's good if you have low HP and you want to stay back. And if there isn't any monsters you can see from the corner then use big shot to find out where some monsters are. Arrow Rain is good if you get under the enemy. Other than that, don't use it unless you have a lot of surrounding enemies. Shooting star is just a good attack to hit multiple enemies but it isn't very strong. If a lot of monsters are bunched up, use it there. If there is one strong enemy, use it up close to them. If they are all spread out, get in the center of the map or the center of the monster range to use it.

PvP: Sad , sad day for Lire. No one really likes battling Lire unless it's Stronger Lire vs Lire. Who do you think the host would be? Yeah.. Obviously. But if you can't find a room, then make one! And include everyone because you can't say No Lire if you are a Lire. If you do find a room , GOOD FOR YOU! Anyways.... Big shot is for close-up enemies or to hit a wide range far away, arrow rain if the enemies are spread out around you or someone is above you, shooting star nearly anywhere as long there is a good range.

 CASH SKILL GUIDE :

WAIT ! STOP! LOOK AT THIS! Before you go running off buying some cool looking skill with your hard earned ( or hard begged) money. Here is the cash skills and best effects blah blah blah.

Elesis - Circle Blade - 500 cash - strikes twice/once with your sword and then make a ring of fire around you - 2/5 stars

Elesis - Magnum Break - 600 cash - strikes a few times and then creates a multiple hitting aura around your blade - 4/5 stars

Elesis - Storm Blade - 700 cash - spin around with your sword a few times and then smash your sword to the ground to create a large attack - 4/5 stars 

Arme - Dark Cloud - 500 cash - shoots out 3 flies straight that curse the enemy - 1/5 USELESS! unless it hits a lire

Arme - Home of Darkness - 600 cash - shoot a skull forward that switches the left and right buttons - 2/5

Arme - MY FAVORITE!! Fire Storm - 700 cash (it seems like a 800 cash skill)- make a 3 large pillars of fire that then explodes into tiny but powerful rocks - 5/5

Arme - Shining Arrow - 500 cash - shoot a everlasting arrow straight that dissapears after it hits - 3/5

Arme - Athena's Sword - 600 cash - boosts up attack power - 2/5

Arme - Boost Heal - 700 cash - increases HP recovery rate - 4/5

Lire - Attack Swing - 500 cash - use your bow as a tiny tornado to hit in front of you - 2/5

Lire - (by the way, if you purchase 2 1-bar skills, you can only pick one)Eagle Sight - 500 cash - increase sight - 3/5

Lire - Flame Arrow - 700 cash - shoot 5 arrows (as in big shot) that then EXPLODES right before your eyes - 5/5

 So find anything useful for your character ?

My opinion : Elesis- get magnum break because it is effective in dungeon and in pvp because it can trap the enemy and finish them 

Arme - get fire storm!!! effective in both too except more effective. Don't use in dungeon except against boss.

Lire - Attack Swing and/or  Flame Arrow  because you can have a 3 - bar combo.

BIG SHOT , BIG SHOT , ATTACK SWING (with a quick finger) because big shot doesn't kill but it weakens ( in PvP) and a 1 bar skill that finishes is attack swing. In dungeon, stick with 3 big shots because it can kill in dungeon and it's good if you have 3-bars (regardless of my previous comments). 

And a next 3 - bar move you can do is Flame arrow which is probably the KO move of all times. you can aim in a large area as in big shot and it explodes. Then shoot arrows to their deaths!

THX FOR READING MY GUIDE!            

Ronan and Lass unlocking/skill/tricks guide coming soon!!!

Spearman/Alchemist guide coming soon!!!

Xbow/Dragon Knight guide coming soon!!!

Arch Ranger guide coming soon!! (coming in order from TOP to BOTTOM!!!!!

I'll edit my posts soon.  

POSITIVE COMMENTS ONLY!  

 

Edit 1 : Credits ~ Blizzard49

 

 

 

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blizzard49:

At least credit my for my big shot, big shot, attack swing combo. I'm like the only lire who uses it ^^

 lies

 

So you credit me for the alchemist thing that you didnt understand and you dont credit my for my own combo? Wicked o.o

 

http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/forums/thread/145438.aspx

 

You can add that if you want someone asked for the pros and cons so I just told them about the pros and cons of Lire Elesis and Arme ^^

 

i give this a 4 o.o

 

nothing for elesis

 u barely understand what each job is capable of

attack swing arrow rain rape

attack swing jump z grab rapes more

I was giving the pros and cons. Also, I didn't list any combos smart one. Besides I just wrote this for someone's understanding, you don't have to bash down and start giving out negative comments. We don't need another Yakuza. Besides I'm too lazy to tell them what all the blahs and blahs are for all the jobs. So put a sock in it please.

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*Bump*

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...You deserve to die.

First of all, Elesis is not the anti-Lire, Lass is. All characters can beat each character depending on the person who uses them. Your 'circle' is a bunch of crap. Also, there's no such thing as a 'cheap' skill or move. The only people who say that are the ones stupid enough to run into 3 bars because they can't do anything else. I don't even want to see what bull you're gonna think up for Ronan and Lass.

You wasted your life typing up that bull.

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And we do need another Yakuza. Know why?

Because unlike you, he has skill.

Because unlike you, he isn't a complete idiot who swallows whatever idiot decides to come ejaculate in your mouth.

Go get some skill.

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And we do know not to double post and just edit your own post ^^

And it doesn't matter if I have "skill" or not. This game isn't your life. So just play it and have fun. And stop taking things so seriously, okay ? ^^

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You guys bashing him are sad.

 

Blizz, are you the self pronounced forum police?  All I ever see you do is tell people how to forum..... you are sad as well.....

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How to forum or how to post? Forum is a noun.

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You prove my point every time you post
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