Varunax:

Those quests that say you can't use a bonus life or natal ring is just the quest. You can still use the bonus life, it's just you aren't going to get the quest completed for that if you do.

Bonus lives are recharged every midnight. People can get bonus lives pretty easily by buying them in the shop with the event points and natals can be obtained from quests already. Ryan has a ressurection skill, Arme has Cure, Boost heal and Ronan has Holy Inferno. There are so many healing spells, that it's pretty much impossible to die unless you do it purposely. The maps aren't even hard, you can set the difficulty. Though, I agree it's a little bit harsh on people who actually do try, it's just ruling out an abused system that we have right now. If you don't want your friends not getting exp, then revive them with Ryan or heal them with Arme/Ronan. We have potions for a reason.

 Since most of you seem so worked up about the players trying, maybe they'll get a result screen saying FAILED (like what we already have) and it calculates how many rooms were cleared up to that point they died and also their Power, Hit, and Control.

Maybe there are people who:
- Play all day
- Used all of their Bonus'
- Used all of their Natal Rings
- Used all of their Attendant Points
- Solo's, so Arme's Cure and Ryan's Resurrection Skill's are useless, and Ronan's Holy Inferno is useless on Fatal. So only Potions are available, but what if they already used up their 3 potions ;p. and potions don't work on friends. (Whoops, forgot that this doesn't belong here :P)

 

And what if you want to stay in the same room because you are friends. 

If you die and you get kicked out, you:
- Need to keep Whispering your friend, not really annoying when you got one friend, but annoying when you got a 'group' of friends.
- When you want to join the same room, you can't because somebody else joined, your friend kicks him, but another person comes in because you're slow etc. etc.

still, it's nice that you want to stop leechers, but this isn't the option.

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Varunax:

As for the friends doing their homework...

 What the hell? Why do your homework while playing GC. That's just plain dumb

 

 Its called multitasking. I did it before during the Assassin event. I would stop for a bit, do my homework, and still pull my weight. Or as I said, we help our friend by letting him do his homework and leeching off us. If you have a problem with it, then leave the game and start a new one. People are going to leech anyway even if this was put in. All they have to do is avoid attacks and voila.

 

And...

Who cares if they work their way to the boss then die. That's how games work. Tough luck. People shouldn't cry just because they can't beat the stage. If you fail, try it again. It would be nice if you guys actually took the time to READ MY TOPIC. I said, I already leave the game or I kick people who leech.

 

That's how OTHER games work. Grand Chase is not those games. You're basically saying "Screw you guys. If you die against the boss, you suck." to everyone. Some people get unlucky against the boss sometimes, but not all the time. And Natal Rings...who REALLY wastes them on 1 person? Natal Rings are best used with more than 1 person dead, but this method will just make them wasted. I would LOVE to waste my Natal Rings, but I don't on the chance that I may need them for an important reason. Also, it won't encourage players to buy more Natal Rings, just not play dungeons. You already listed a method that can be done when this happens, and thats leave the dungeon, or kick them afterwards.

 

If you don't like how the game is, then either quit whining and deal with it, or keep whining and quit. 

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Well I support this, Because i totally Agree with Varunax

What Exactly are you people defending, people who dont agree? the fact that people leech off you and take your items that you diserve because some idioit decided to kill themselves and afk on you so you can do all of the work?
This is to you LilNeko. What would be a Justified Feature of leeching and takeing advantage of other players success for your loss?
Some random guy joines a game and does 10 damage YES!!! oh crap he's dead 3 times  bam, he tried his best eh? wow and he gets like 20k exp for the whole dungeon run and he gets items that should not be his at all? eh. and yeah yeah, you think im worried about items right, well if you put it on free drop, it doesnt solve anything because you'll be seeing flying n00bs grabbing all of the items that drop and would not solve the items and for the exp it wouldnt solve anything because they tried their best right? yeah by sitting there grabbing as many items as they can possible. and for you other people who are too cheap to use Bonus's and Nata rings, if you dont use it, Thats TOO Bad, You're lucky they even have those in the game and better be proud of it. Because they probably didnt have to put them in the game if they wanted, and that would be too bad so sad eh? and who ever said this game was going to be easy? it's only easy if you play the game correctly, oh wait.. Unless all of those who dissagree just love to leech that much? it's kinda pathedic how people leech because they learn nothing but how to absoutly lazy, If you Afk, Why would you Afk in a game To Do your homework? I mean Seriously A really stupid Excuse in my opinion because you would take your time to log in your account, click Gaikoz server, and Select your dungeon, and then Click Ready Button, and Wait for others to join, and then wah bam you're in the game.. Woo hoo!!! NOPE, Oppps I forgot to do my homework, im just gonna take 15 mins to do it while in game, thanks guys for lettting me leech off you, wow, absoutly pathedic. You people who dissagree with this thread probably think more before you post a Dissagreement to something that is a
Negitive/Positive Thought, Negitive being that You Are doing the work/Positive being that Some one is Takeing Advantage of you.
Exactly how leeching is. just like the Leech in real life.
and for those who dont use Nata rings or Free Bonus lives, You can Purchase 2 Bonus Charges in the Attendance Points Section of the Shop, and Those who dont have Nata rings, Simply Just Cash shop for them. If not nessesarry. if you dont have either of them then thats to bad for you. because thats what you greedy people get for being cheap. and for those who simply do not Have them or used them up, Get More, it's as easy as that to Solve that problem.

There im done.

@Axel

I'm not whining.

 I'm making a suggestion, though I suppose if you have nothing constructive to reply with, then don't reply to my suggestion. I don't care about your leeching friends. They leech. You're basically telling me to take a hike so that your friends can leech from you and you leech from your friends. So, I guess my opinion doesn't matter to you. Why should I care about your opinion then? It doesn't hurt to take a look from both sides of the direction, but you're being narrow minded and only preferring your opinion.

I'm not basically saying screw you guys if you die against the boss. I'm saying, I want to get rid of the leechers. Though, seeing you leech I'm not surprised that you're against my idea.

 

Anyway, Vpower... your posts don't even make sense. You make it sound as if auto-kicking player is going to make more players join the game for some unknown reason. People get their bonus lives recharged every midnight.

As for soloing, there's no point in even making this suggestion if I mentioned soloing. You can't leech in solos, obviously.

Could you PLEASE use the enter button without the shift.

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Varunax:

 Anyway, Vpower... your posts don't even make sense. You make it sound as if auto-kicking player is going to make more players join the game for some unknown reason. People get their bonus lives recharged every midnight.

As for soloing, there's not point in even making this suggestion if I mentioned soloing. You can't leech in solos, obviously.

But they re-use them and then they can't use any bonus' for that day.

 And I editted my post regarding the solo part 15 minutes ago or something like that.

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If they used it all up, they should be more careful next time, right? What do you expect? Should players be given the option to revive every time they die just so it can be "fair"? We only have a certain amount of bonus lives for a reason.

yep Agreed Varuna, people should be more carful

Varunax:

If they used it all up, they should be more careful next time, right? What do you expect? Should players be given the option to revive every time they die just so it can be "fair"? We only have a certain amount of bonus lives for a reason.

That's not what I'm saying.

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Varunax:

Those quests that say you can't use a bonus life or natal ring is just the quest. You can still use the bonus life, it's just you aren't going to get the quest completed for that if you do.

Bonus lives are recharged every midnight. People can get bonus lives pretty easily by buying them in the shop with the event points and natals can be obtained from quests already. Ryan has a ressurection skill, Arme has Cure, Boost heal and Ronan has Holy Inferno. There are so many healing spells, that it's pretty much impossible to die unless you do it purposely. The maps aren't even hard, you can set the difficulty. Though, I agree it's a little bit harsh on people who actually do try, it's just ruling out an abused system that we have right now. If you don't want your friends not getting exp, then revive them with Ryan or heal them with Arme/Ronan. We have potions for a reason.

 Since most of you seem so worked up about the players trying, maybe they'll get a result screen saying FAILED (like what we already have) and it calculates how many rooms were cleared up to that point they died and also their Power, Hit, and Control.

Rofl so Toc Champion isnt hard

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I do not support it.

I like my holiday trick or treat or whatever it is full room bonus experience. Kicking someone automatically like that would defeat the purpose of it (It counts even if they are dead).

Also, what if the said person managed to make it alllll the way to the boss, but then just died and got raped (it's happened to me before, I've had some really bad luck). You're saying their stage work was for nothing just because they happened to have some bad luck on the boss? And don't give me the natal crap, because I never waste my natals on insignificant things when I know my team can handle it. I only use my natals when everyone has died to revive us all at once for another chance. Saying they HAVE to use cash to buy natals once their quest ones are gone (maybe some people don't like leveling up every single character they own) is getting into a different degree of unfairness and forcing people to pay money. That would lose people for sure.

You really have no idea about "team play" if you are going to go around throwing random stupid suggestions like this. You are indeed sticking it to the leechers and the idiots that do that, I really agree there. (Since I had one the other day).

However, you are sticking it to the legitimate people who just have some bad luck. I don't care if YOU think they shouldn't be rewarded for dieing. The fact of the matter is, THE GAME WAS MADE TO REWARD YOU LIKE THAT. If you don't like it, tough ess aych eye tee on you. Really, you really are whining about something so insignificant and stupid.

Hey while we're at it, lets go to all the FPS games that have ranking systems, and if you die, automatically kick you from the game so that you don't get your ranked score. That'll show those bastards! 

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@simphi

Sorry, but I don't remember mentioning Champion mode anywhere in my posts.

 

Hm...

If you don't like my idea, then just say you don't like it.

 

I have as much luck as you do. Sometimes I end up losing to the boss, do you think I enjoy that? No. I like my exp, but hey, no need to be a smart ass about it. You're basically defending leechers for some reason. Do you like leechers? Have you ever had a leecher in your party? Actually, do you even know what a leecher is?

I've been gaming for 19 years and have been into mmo's for the past 12 years. I think I know what a leecher is junior.

And I mentioned in my post, if you would actually read (but evidently you lack the literacy to do even that) that I've had them in my party before and it annoys me.

However I also mentioned that you are punishing the legitimate players who have the bad luck. You pretty much just said "you deserve to lose your exp if you die that much". Bull crap, you don't deserve to lose exp if you do die that much. That's a retarded and jack ass thing to say. That's like saying "oh sorry that bus hit you and you dropped your ice cream, you really don't deserve another".

Leechers are a whole problem on it's own. How about instead of suggesting something that would punish the LEGITIMATE players, you go and suggest something that would be fair for them and still destroy the leechers. Like I don't know, a VOTE kick system like someone else mentioned. Really, if one person is leeching, odds are the other people in the group are pissed at is as well (I know I am) and would vote him or her RIGHT out of the room.

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well to Lorias,
Yeah that seems bad right? well it's called team work and co-operation, If you die Then thats your fault and it brings the rest of the team down, and thats too bad so sad. And It can simply Be Solved if you had a Nata ring or a Bonus Charge, If you or one of your teamates do Not have any after 3 deaths then thats is too bad for you. and your teamates because you or someone in your team is letting you all down.

And the Holiday Events never said it has to be fair if someone leaves or dissconnects you would still get the exp event still is activated because it's just how the game works, and if you die it's with no nata rings or bonus charges left thats too bad, because you have more than enough tries to beat the dungeon.

ZDragun:

well to Lorias,
Yeah that seems bad right? well it's called team work and co-operation, If you die Then thats your fault and it brings the rest of the team down, and thats too bad so sad. And It can simply Be Solved if you had a Nata ring or a Bonus Charge, If you or one of your teamates do Not have any after 3 deaths then thats is too bad for you. and your teamates because you or someone in your team is letting you all down.

And the Holiday Events never said it has to be fair if someone leaves or dissconnects you would still get the exp event still is activated because it's just how the game works, and if you die it's with no nata rings or bonus charges left thats too bad, because you have more than enough tries to beat the dungeon.

Wrong idiot, if you actually played during the event, once someone leaves or disconnects the BONUS IS INATE. 

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